Loc'd N Sports Podcast

Buzzer Beaters to Touchdown Cheers

Loc'd N Sports Episode 31

From the heated debates that followed a controversial Olympic athlete’s post-COVID antics to the exhilarating rivalry between Team USA Men's Basketball and Noah Lyles, there’s no shortage of drama and excitement. We highlight stunning performances from Sha'Carri Richardson, dissect Team USA’s nail-biting games, and celebrate Simone Biles’ remarkable comeback. Expect insights and passionate takes on the challenges and triumphs of both men's and women's basketball teams on the global stage, and a nod to the rising international talent that's reshaping the sports landscape.

Shifting gears, we dive into the NFL season with spirited debates and bold predictions. Can the Kansas City Chiefs dominate once again, or will a dark horse like the Detroit Lions surprise everyone? We scrutinize the Dallas Cowboys’ chances, Dak Prescott's future, and the emotional rollercoaster of being a loyal fan. And don’t miss our take on the WNBA’s competitive scene, focusing on standout players and teams, and what the Dallas Wings need to do to keep their momentum. Packed with personal anecdotes, sharp analysis, and lively discussions, this episode is sure to keep you entertained and informed. Grab a glass and a bottle of wine and LET'S TALK SPORTS!!!!

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Produced by : Chalyse "Lyse" Dishmon, Kevelle "Velz" Harmon, Blair Beezy, and Nuchie
Edited by: Blair Beezy
Music Produced by: KT on the Beatz

Speaker 1:

I like sports, and that's it. Yo, yo, yo, it's the one and only Lise.

Speaker 2:

And it's your girl, vels, aka Velly Vell, if that's what you want to call me, and together we are.

Speaker 1:

Locked In Sports Yo episode 31.

Speaker 2:

Episode treinta y uno and we're back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we are.

Speaker 2:

And we're back for another episode, episode 31. So much has happened, man. We had the olympics happen, man, this past summer. Yep, a lot of things going on in the wmba, you know, wmba starting back up. Yep, um, man, the nfl about to kick off trying to come and we're gonna get into it, but, uh, we're going to start with this. Lise, how you doing?

Speaker 1:

I am well. I am well, man. I mean, everything's back. Olympics just ended, like you said, the NFL is creeping around the corner. I ain't just excited about that. But I mean, you know, I'm all right, work is work. I'm actually studying for my next certification, uh, just trying to climb up these IT ranks. You know what I'm talking about. But I've been good bills. I've been enjoying the summer, uh, even though it's coming to a close, um, I just I've just been maxing, relaxing you just been maxing and relaxing.

Speaker 2:

You done been on some trips. You been to Chicago. I.

Speaker 1:

I have been.

Speaker 2:

How was that?

Speaker 1:

Oh shoot Yo. Chicago was lit man. I went out there and visited my sister for the weekend. She done took me to all these bougie-ass restaurants and happy hours.

Speaker 1:

And hey, like we I mean we had so much fun and I just saw like I've been to Chicago before, but like this time it was like different, like I was just seeing like another side of Chicago, okay, um, and I mean we then went on like a boat tour. Man, when they say summertime shy, I get it like. I literally get it like it's. It's different. They got like this river walk, like it's like two, three, four, five miles long river walk Straight up bars and restaurants and people just out there having a good time. It's diverse. Chicago, I F with it. It's like one of my other cities. I always say I have different cities.

Speaker 1:

They're my favorite Chicago is up there like it's just the culture.

Speaker 2:

Um, everyone was kind of cool like it wasn't a South like everybody gonna be like hey, how you doing, how's your day right, they're not like that.

Speaker 1:

But super cool. Everybody kind of sits there, but if you got a question, they're gonna answer it, boom, boom, boom. So, like I asked with Chi town um, what else did we do out there? We did a lot of stuff. We ate a lot they have really good oysters, by the way, oh dude yeah, and they believe in rooftops. They love a good rooftop and I love a good rooftop, so it was like a match made in heaven for real.

Speaker 2:

How was the weather? The weather was good like um.

Speaker 1:

it gets a little chilly at night, but nothing too strange. It was because it was by one of the Great Lakes. Don't ask me which one, I don't remember. But it's by one of the Great Lakes, so at night it gets a little chilly, but other than that the weather was perfect.

Speaker 2:

They don't owe you nothing, chicago, don't owe you nothing, not a dime.

Speaker 1:

I'm not mad at it. What about yourself, Vales? A little birdie had a rumor.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know my summer, as everyone knows. I'm a coach, I'm a teacher. My summer has definitely come to an end, it's over with, but I do have some exciting news. Like I just mentioned, Like I just mentioned before, most of y'all know that I am a coach and just got a new job. I am now the head coach at Urban Nimitz High School.

Speaker 1:

Hey, we're going to clap that up If y'all didn't hear it. She said she is now the head coach.

Speaker 2:

Amen, yeah, which is crazy, like just saying it verbally, but you know, I'm excited, I'm I'm thankful, I'm grateful, I'm blessed, uh, to be in this situation and, you know, to be able to have my own program run. My own program, yes, um, it was. This summer wasn't just like super eventful for me only because you, you know, I was locked in no pun intended Trying to get this job. And yeah, we're here now. The school year has started in my first week of school at Irvin Nimitz. And, yeah, we all in baby Nimitz Nation stand up.

Speaker 1:

We all in.

Speaker 2:

Representing that navy blue, silver and white. Come on, and I'm excited and I'm ready to work.

Speaker 1:

let's go hey, man, look, I cannot be more proudly viewed than I am right now. Bills, this is something you've been working hard towards and you finally have reached a goal. This is this is just the beginning. Um, this is your program. Like I said, you run it the way you want to Forget all the naysayers, forget anybody that's trying to put any negativity in your mind. This is yours and, man, you know I'm stepping 110 behind you, like the sports is definitely behind you. So, like dude, this is your season Thrive. May God continue to bless you along your journey.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate that, lisa. I appreciate it all right. So now that all of that is out the way, we're gonna go ahead and get it to it.

Speaker 1:

Let's get into it. The olympics, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

The olympics man. The olympics just ended um and it was. It was entertaining. I will say that very much um it was one thing that I was anticipating after the nba season was over with. I was ready to watch them. Guys, like just you, team usa period, like you know, all across the board. But just yeah, you know, brian steph kd, you was ready for usa basketball. I was look and you know, and I just knew it would be, I just knew it would be good.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, anyway, the olympics, the olympics, the olympics. You know what? What I was most looking forward to was the track and field oh yeah, of course I want to see that, like for some reason with the basketball, we always dominated, that we do so. I wasn't like well, as of late.

Speaker 2:

I don't know it's been tough, but but most of the time yes right, like we usually dominated that.

Speaker 1:

So I wasn't over excited or hyped for that event. I was like trapped for some reason, because it's so and also depending on the event as well. But it's like, it's personal, Like it's just you, it's definitely personal, like it's you against everybody else, like it's just you. So it's like I wanted to see how some of the big stars was going to. You know, handle the pressure.

Speaker 2:

Me too. We're talking about our Sha'Carys.

Speaker 1:

We're talking about our Sha'Carys. We're talking about our Noah Louds.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we're talking about? Well, we were talking about Shelly Ann Frazier, Right and Sharika from Jamaica, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, they didn't run. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Shelly Ann Frazier. She ran, you know she ran. But she didn't run the. Yeah, she ran in her heat and she finished number two, I think. I think she finished second, but she did not run in the final. I heard two things.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

One. It was because of a hamstring injury. That was the latter. That was what we found out after everything happened. That wasn't it? And then the second thing is I guess they were locked out of the field for some strange reason. They couldn't get on the practice uh track and like warm up properly, like they normally do, yeah and so yeah, and it's.

Speaker 2:

There's a video surfacing on the internet like that shows them trying to get in, not only her, her Shelly Ann Frazier Parker from Jamaica or not Parker, but Shelly Ann Frazier Price, she was trying to get in and then they show Sha'Carri in the background, kind of like just sitting on the curb Like man, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy.

Speaker 2:

And so, but Sha'Carri still got out there and ran she did she walked, it, she walked it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she got silver, unfortunately, but it's not unfortunate, but it's like we want her to get gold. Oh, absolutely, there was room for Shakira Witch. She still did get a gold medal with the 4x4 team, I think, but yeah, that's why she didn't run. I heard that Sharika, the other girl from Jamaica, the other fast one, she didn't run because she had injured three weeks before, three weeks prior, and she was gonna wait to her race like her 200, like she runs in the 200 yeah, she's gonna wait to just compete in that, but she ended up not competing at all wow and what is for the same reason no, just because she had got injured three weeks before.

Speaker 2:

So she kind of wanted to save her best for that race gotcha, and I never saw her run, but it was. I mean, it was good all across. I don't even know where we want to start.

Speaker 1:

Do we want to start with, like, just stay track I mean, let's just, let's just go, let's just keep going and um.

Speaker 2:

So then, uh, shikari won uh silver in the hundred final. And then the girl that beat her, uh, where was she from? I can't think of her name St Lucia, st Lucia. And that was the first gold medal that they had ever captured. You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

So it was big time for her. She's a celebrity now.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, oh absolutely.

Speaker 2:

She will never have to pay for another thing in that country, ever again.

Speaker 1:

And one of their first medals. What?

Speaker 2:

And so that race was crazy, though like I was getting up and watching just the heat, like it's 4 30 in the morning, I'm setting alarms to get up and watch that because it was live. You know they're in paris seven hour difference and so like there was a couple of things I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get up for this and watch. It was tough the mornings was tough because I was tired the rest of the day, but you know it was the Olympics was very entertaining. Then we got Noah Louse man who?

Speaker 2:

well, it was some other women too. Um the hurt, uh, and.

Speaker 1:

Gabby Thomas.

Speaker 2:

Gabby Thomas um, it was somebody.

Speaker 1:

TT.

Speaker 2:

I can't remember her last name and I know these things, but um, yeah, yeah, and so we know, allows. You know his race is a 200 meter race and you know, but he competed in 100 which in the um, in the, in his heat, he finished second. You know, I mean, but you know noah is very he taught he, he arrogant, he gonna talk his stuff he gonna absolutely say what he gotta say, because he feels like, you know, he's the fastest period man personal alive right and we gotta move.

Speaker 2:

But what was crazy about Noah was, just like you know, he came up, he did win the 100, he did, he did win the gold in the 100 meter, but his race to 200, he lost, yep. And then, of course, well, he didn't, he didn't lose, he didn't lose.

Speaker 1:

He got second. No, he got bronze. He got bronze. Yeah, he got bronze and so um.

Speaker 2:

but right after the race, he over there acting like he dehydrated. Well, I'm not gonna say he was active, but now he's dehydrated, yeah and all of. And then, of course, shortly after that, we found out that he had COVID Right Right. For two days, until he was, you know, he didn't have COVID anymore. Then it was a video surfacing on the internet of him in the club dancing.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, I'm glad you brought that up. I'm glad you brought that up it was, but you know, and I'm going to let you interject on that up.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad you brought that up, it was. But you know, and I'm gonna let you, and I'm gonna let you interject on that, I'm gonna let you interject, but it's just crazy that he did that and it's just like. So what I was gonna say is, you know, he did all of that, but at the end of the day, and then it's what he said months ago, when he was just like you, you know, when the NBA, when, when NBA, when you win a championship, and they caught themselves like world champions that's what the NBA calls them world champions and he didn't agree with that. And so I'm just like, okay, I disagree with him. Then I disagree with him then when he said it, but I understood what he was saying at the same time, kind of, you know, I mean, but of course, when we get to the olympics, it's like a little beef between, uh, team usa men's basketball and noah laus, right, right, and it's just like.

Speaker 2:

It's funny, obviously, when you see it on the internet and you know, you see the memes and stuff. But at the same time I'm like why can't we all just we supposed to all be rooting for each other, right period, like we are, but the beef was. It's funny, it's entertaining, but it's just like we all team usa, we all trying to, we all out here trying to win period, you know I mean no, I agree, and you had mentioned, like after the race, how he was all like passing out and feeling like he was also sick.

Speaker 1:

I actually fell for that, like I really believe that he wasn't feeling well. And then when it comes back out that he had covid, I was okay. Now that makes all the sense, right. But then when the video comes out that he was all at the club, I mean jamming hard.

Speaker 2:

Well, he, well, he tested negative. Okay, well, it was two days later. He's like he don't have covet anymore.

Speaker 1:

He posted it himself, okay, okay, um so if you ever had covet before I mean maybe this is the new covet, maybe it's the 2024 COVID, I don't know, but if you've never had COVID before, you don't, just after two days of doing what he just did, be all at the club doing what he was online like he was celebrating his gold medal, his bronze in the 100 meter gold but what I'm saying is I feel like it was more so.

Speaker 1:

He was embarrassed, that you know, because he does talk all that shit. You know what I'm saying? He talks a lot of noise, so he didn't complete the mission, he didn't get the gold medal that he wanted in the 200.

Speaker 2:

He got the 100.

Speaker 1:

I mean he got the 100, but he wanted the 200, he got the 100.

Speaker 2:

I mean he got the 100, but he wanted to, which was crazy, by the way that race was crazy it was.

Speaker 1:

But what I'm saying is like I felt like it was more so an embarrassment now after seeing that video of him being all out like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I mean but you know I root for everybody. I rooted for him in the 100. I thought that was a great race. I didn't get to watch the 200, um, but I saw that he had came in third, I believe, on that and so he came.

Speaker 1:

He didn't even come out the gate.

Speaker 2:

Good I didn't.

Speaker 1:

I didn't get to watch that race and I need to go back and watch it yeah, but yeah, it's, it's been.

Speaker 2:

I'm proud of shakari, I'm proud of noah, I'm proud of, you know, um team usa men and Women's Basketball, which we can get into that right now, and it was entertaining for me. I watched all of the men's games. The women's games was coming on at weird times, but I did watch most of it and to me I was just like okay, I can kind of miss some of the women's games because we're killing everybody. They running through people. Until the gold medal game, they was just having their way. Now it's some talent around the world on the women's side.

Speaker 2:

It was some hoopers out there. It was a hooper from Nigeria, it was one that I liked from China, it was some players, but they was running through everybody. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to pay attention more to the men's side because they was over there fighting for their life a little bit, but you know they took care of business and pool play. But then once it mattered, once those games started mattering, like those games started getting really good. And I want to say this right now like the rest of the world is catching up, oh, absolutely, especially when it comes to basketball, because there's so many different resources, so many different outlets that you can use to learn the game wherever you are. That is, I mean it's.

Speaker 2:

We have youtube now, like we have the internet, like everything you know. Trainers are over there, right teams are being ran over there, like the rest of the world has caught up as far as playing the game of basketball, and I hate when well, I'm not going to say hate, but like people on the internet have been talking about, like you know, the dream team and you know how they was yeah, the redeem team, and then like, but how, the dream team was just running through everybody, they was beating them by like 50-60, they was killing them but it was a different time, different era, and that's why I said the game has changed.

Speaker 2:

It's not like the us is not as dominant on the men's side as they have been in the past, like they are dominant. Obviously we just want to go, but the words the rest of the world's. You got your yokish, you got your yokiches. You got your lucas, even though looking them didn't make it, but you got your yannis's. You got your wimby's like you got people from it. Like you got your shy uh, gilligis alexanders, you got people from it. Like you got your shy. Gilligan's Alexanders, you got your everybody.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. And even South Sudan put on the show. Yeah, they was hoping they was they. Team USA beat them in pool play the men by one point in pool play, and they still gave them hell in the second game when it mattered. But I mean, team USA kind of took off on them, hooped and now, uh, but yeah, the rest of the world is catching up. But I will say, on the men's side, they took care of business. Brian did his thing, kd did his thing whenever he could, steph went off the last two games, chef Curry, chef man, and to watch that and to like see that and be able to root for him was just different, because it's like we want this gold medal and like it was. I enjoyed it, it was entertaining, it was good like they had to fight for this. When the men did, yeah the women.

Speaker 2:

You know, they coasted, yeah. But then that gold medal game, they had to fight against France.

Speaker 1:

They did. You know what I mean. Let's go back to the men. Go back, go back, go back. I got questions for you. Yeah, let's talk about South Sudan.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

That one point victory. That had everybody kind of like ooh, uh-oh yeah, Are we not as?

Speaker 2:

dominant people were already thinking that anyway, but the odds were crazy. Like they had them, beating them by like at least 25 plus, you know what I mean. And it wasn't covering, so we was mad, cause then they?

Speaker 1:

they prize picks, but yeah. South Sudan but yeah, so were you nervous going into that next game.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

And I'm being real, you had to play them again Again.

Speaker 2:

No, I was not, because I knew Like, yeah, y'all saw what it was before. Y'all only won by one point. Right Now, it's time to take care of business. Friend, we're trying to get the gold. These games matter. You got to do whatever you got to do to win. Absolutely, period, absolutely. You would be the laughing stock of everything if you would have let south sudan come in and beat you. I knew they were gonna. I knew they were gonna. Take care of business against them. It was still a good game.

Speaker 1:

They would have been a mean for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2:

That would have been really, really bad, really bad, really bad. Like I mean, I don't even know how to explain how bad that would have been right but yeah, they took her business against them they did.

Speaker 1:

Um, and my next thing, you know we have to talk about it, right, jason tatum. So I gotta get your tape, because I, because I didn't, I didn't really watch too much of that, I just watched the last game so. So Jason Tatum, from my understanding he didn't get. No burn in, not a whole lot.

Speaker 2:

Okay, there was two DNPs. I heard about that and I felt like he should have gotten minutes in every game. I'm going to just be real Okay.

Speaker 2:

Jason can contribute in some sort of way. He's athletic. They just won the championship. You know what I mean. He got teammates on the team. I think he would have been able to contribute. But he also kind of struggled a little bit in the playoffs. Not saying that that had to do anything with him you know being able to get minutes with this team but he did struggle a little bit. He did his thing but he struggled a little bit. Jaylen brown got the uh finals mvp and all of that. You know I mean, but I, I, so I I felt like he should have played in those dmps, but then at the same time I really didn't care right I don't think you like Jason Tatum.

Speaker 2:

I do, I like Jason, I really do. He's a sweet guy. Yeah, you know what I mean. I mess with Jason, you know what I mean, and he can hoop, but I really wasn't tripping about him not getting those minutes, but I did feel like he should have played in every game, like I was like, okay, steve, like his head that is true. Like you can throw him in there. So everybody else has played. Yeah, now Tyrese Halliburton wasn't playing much either, but everybody expected that. Right, jason Tatum, you got to put him out there.

Speaker 1:

Just to see what he can do. Just to see, just to see, and I thought I think y'all saw, though right, you say he struggled.

Speaker 2:

A little bit in the play, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But no, even he played a couple of minutes.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and he definitely struggled a little bit playing with Team USA, but at the same time, I understand that you have to find and get a rhythm. If you're on and off, on and off, on and off, like you're never going to find that you know what I mean. But see, it's the Olympics Right, and we ain't got time to be finding rhythms. We ain't got time.

Speaker 1:

We just don't have time, you know what I'm saying. So now this poses another question. I know we're going too long, but this is opening up in a can, so maybe we gotta start Digging into Jason Tatum a little bit. Is he as elite as where people are making him out to be?

Speaker 2:

I think he's still an elite player. I just think he needs to be. He has to go on a run where he's consistent like the entire time, to prove like, okay, jason Tatum is really him.

Speaker 1:

He has talent, but then if you're saying that you can't crown him as him being elite, I think he's still, it's kind of a weird you're funny he can be an elite player.

Speaker 2:

We've seen it.

Speaker 1:

We've seen it but you have to be elite consistently you can have off nights. But if you are elite you would have got some burn in the Olympics because guess what? That's where the elites go to play.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, people just felt like it was wrong for Steve Kerr to limit him to minutes.

Speaker 1:

He should have gave up some burn have those two DMPs which was crazy.

Speaker 2:

Like them DMPs was crazy and it was a funny meme going around and I'm not even going to say it, but you know that's pretty much what Steve Kerr kind of did once he played. He started him in the following game and I thought it was cool that you know they was on a fast break, they was in transition and he was out in front. So somebody got the rebound, gave it to steph, steph passed it up to jason, he got him a dunk like I thought that was cool.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean like, let him, let him get some burn and let him have something meaningful to absolutely put forward to this gold medal that you, that they trying to get, you know I mean, because that is a confidence killer it is, it can be, it can mess with you, even though in my mind, if I'm jason, I just wouldn't chip yeah I don't like, look cool, I can, hey, if I ain't gotta play too many minutes and I can, I can, you know, kind of coast a little bit, rest my legs and get a gold medal at the same time and be around all of these greats.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm cool with it. I'm not even gonna take no offense because you know why, you know why I'm going to come back better next year, like I'm going to come back and show y'all yeah, next season. What I'm about? So cool. I just got a chance, I'm coasting, I'm good I was just in a parade three weeks ago. You know what I mean. Like that's, if I'm Jason Tatum, that's how I would be thinking, and he just had another kid with Ella Mae like that's. If I'm jason tatum, that's how I would be thinking.

Speaker 1:

And he just had another kid, yeah, so he should be on lma, right.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you know yeah, but you know he should, he, he definitely, definitely should have played in all of the games. But I'm not mad at the minutes that he got because of the wins, that we were like that, we like we took care of business, we did so yeah that's real.

Speaker 1:

That's the one to pick your brain on now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so we're gonna move on from the olympics um, I do want to say that team usa overall you gotta mention, simone biles bro, simone I'm tripping, I am tripping, I am tripping, I'm tri, we can't move on. We can't move on just yet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you got it, man, I'm so glad that Simone came back, yes, and redeemed herself Absolutely and did not give up in Tokyo. She didn't leave it in Tokyo, no, she came to Paris and she proved to herself, she proved to the nation, she proved to the world that she's still great at what she does.

Speaker 1:

She is the GOAT yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm happy that she did. You know what I mean. And she worked too Like I tried to watch her little documentary on one of the. Yeah, on Netflix, you know, trying to just and she was getting up, she was grinding it, but it was really something mental going on with her that she could not shake.

Speaker 1:

Right, they mental going on with her that she could not shake right they call them the twit twitsies, the yeah which is weird.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they can't get that count right, right and that's a real thing and that's scary because the way they be flipping turn. You can't count how many you'll break your neck like, and that's why she had to kind of chill, because she's like, yeah, okay and to think that, like people, I remember during that time period people was like really coming down on her, calling her soft yeah, they were, and that and it's like that's why people that's not doing that kind of work need to be quiet.

Speaker 1:

They do like seriously, because you have, if you're not out there competing in that kind of capacity, you've never even done anything before you don't know you have no idea what it's like or what kind of mental jackups you be having, like you don't know, mm-hmm. So we got to take it easy on these athletes. They're regular people. They just got a gift. You know what I mean? Yeah, a special talent. I don't know, I ain't going to get on my soapbox, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

You just don't If you're not an athlete, especially if you ain't never played a sport. You've never done it. You don't know what it's like to do that. Get on a balance, beam, flip and land. You don't know what it's like. I don't know what it's like. I don't know what it's like to do that and I'm not gonna try.

Speaker 1:

No, you know I mean at all so, and if you ever catch me trying, please stop test me.

Speaker 2:

No, just tell me no, for real get down but but I'm proud of her man, no, and I'm just proud of the whole gymnastic team as well, but I'm proud of her man. No, and I'm just proud of the whole gymnastic team as well, but I'm proud of her. Um, it was a very kind gesture, uh, and I forgot what country she's from when the girl won gold medal and simone and I had already won gold in different events, um, but they kind of like bowed to her and just made her feel special, yeah they heard that moment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like that was so classy that was, that was that really was um, um, I'm just proud of simone and and all the team. Usa man, and before we and before we, do you have anything else?

Speaker 1:

to say about no. No, I just want to say, like that moment that you, that you were speaking of, like no, that was a really truly, when you think about that, that is a moment, yeah, you know, yeah, that they did, did that for her, and that just shows the unity yeah, and even honestly, and not just that, but even it was another clip of the girl in france.

Speaker 2:

She didn't really, you know, do too good and uh, I don't think she um was able to compete for a medal and the other girls from I forgot what country it was, but they was consoling her because she was crying and they talked to her for a good like minute and a half, two minutes.

Speaker 2:

You know that's a long, little talk between somebody that you're competing against and yeah, I feel like that was a special moment too and it just shows, just like you know, we can be together if we just try. And the Olympics is bigger than just the sports. Like you really see all of those countries coming together, like if they can do it and I hope it wasn't no fights and then in the village and then like that, no mess and then, but if they can do it, that should just be a blueprint of what the world could be.

Speaker 1:

Man, you said a word right there.

Speaker 2:

That could be a blueprint, it could be, but you know, we just it's a lot going on, but we're going to move on from the Olympics. I will say that. And there's two more things I want to say about the Olympics. Sure, First of all, team USA winning. They had 126 medals total, so they pretty much won in that category, Absolutely. They tied with China, though Team USA and China tied with 40 gold medals. Oh, wow and yeah, so I thought that was cool. And then also, last but not least, snoop Dogg was everywhere.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2:

He was everywhere. It's like where's Waddle, where's Snoop, where's Snoop today, that is crazy. He was everywhere. He was out there doing his thing and I wondered if he was going to be out there the whole time and he was.

Speaker 1:

He was Two weeks in Paris.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, must be nice, must be, must be nice. But yeah, that's the Olympics, that's the Olympics we're going to move on to the next.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we have to talk about the girls, though we have to talk about Team USA.

Speaker 2:

Women and we meant to.

Speaker 1:

We got the gold, mm-hmm, but it was no easy task. At the end there, it was not Because you had mentioned we rolled through everybody, but when we got to the middle rank it was tough going up against France. Yeah, a person that stood out to me the most from that team and it was quite a few, but the one that just really stuck out like a sore thumb was Gabby Williams Mm-hmm, she tough.

Speaker 2:

In the gold medal game for sure. Yes, yeah she's cold.

Speaker 1:

She's cold and like I was really watching that game at first.

Speaker 2:

I was like man, we're gonna probably beat him.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't gonna really pay attention to it like that, but I was like, oh shoot, they hanging, they hanging tough, and she, she just pulling up, she, they had the lead. That was over like 10, 15 yeah yeah, like it was, it was.

Speaker 2:

I woke up to watch that game.

Speaker 1:

She was balling. She needs to be a part of somebody's WNBA team Like ASAP. She literally needs to be a part of somebody's team. Angel had kind of made a little joke or something like that, trying to recruit her.

Speaker 2:

I saw it.

Speaker 1:

I saw her tweet. Gary was just like we can team up somewhere else, Whatever, whatever, but why hasn't she been picked up yet?

Speaker 2:

Like I mean, I know, we just get back in there.

Speaker 1:

It's early, give it some time. I'm sorry, I'm calling her the next day.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm sure they did, but you still have to work out things Contracts, negotiations, that's true do you think that'd be a good pickup for the wings? I do. I think Gabby Williams would fit with the wings because of you have Arike at point and then you have which. They just got rid of Billings, they just got rid of Odyssey and we'll get to that and then you have Satu back.

Speaker 1:

Yep, she's back.

Speaker 2:

And Gabby is very aggressive. She goes get her. She's not scared, she's not afraid. I think she put on a show for a reason, or she tried to. You know what I mean and it worked out for her, and I think she's showing them like hey, I got game too. Put me in a W. I may have been in the league before and I had to play overseas, but I still do this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, against the best Right as you can see, against the best, she, single-handedly, was going to wield them to victory For real. She was Single-handedly, she could have shot at the end that could have took it into overtime and who knows, at that point, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

I don't even want to think about that, I don't? Hey, I was nervous. I was nervous too.

Speaker 1:

I was like, okay, if I could be real. I wanted Team USA to win, Because I just did not want to hear the slurs.

Speaker 2:

Of course we have to.

Speaker 1:

They have a, but a part of me wanted a good Cinderella-ass story.

Speaker 2:

I ain't gonna lie, I want to be one of the cinderella story. The women had to win. I know that's what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

like I know, like no, they had to win, yeah, but it was just like a part of me was like damn pulling for. You know I'm saying the underdog, you know.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, and it was, and it was the home crowd. They had that on their side it was a tough the hurt both teams, the men and the women, both in the gold medal game, which was crazy but yeah it meant something to them it meant something to them it did absolutely and it was dope to see it was definitely.

Speaker 1:

Somebody needs to go get Gabby. There's no reason why she's not in the league. I feel like they will, and it need to be the wings. And since we're here, let's go ahead and just get into the WNBA BZ. Drop the beat, all right, the Dallas Wings man. Drop the beat all right, these dallas wings man. I know we were played with injury before and I say we.

Speaker 1:

I because home team still gonna root, but I know we were played with injury before and we haven't had the best of seasons, but I feel, feel like we're making dumb decisions, you know, along the way, along this journey. Yeah, you had mentioned earlier. Satu is back. We welcome her, we want her to be back. We needed her, right, evidently. Who else is back? Maddie's back? We need Maddie in her shooting, but she's not. Maddie has had a good year, but I don't. Maddie's back. We need Maddie in her shooting, but she's not. Maddie has had a good year, but I don't feel Maddie is as consistent.

Speaker 2:

I feel like she was being consistent this season, yeah, this season. This is her second season in the league she's progressing. That's all that matters, that is true, but I felt like and she was, you're right, she was putting up.

Speaker 1:

She was averaging about 12, 14 okay, you're right, you're right, um, and then I forgot who else is coming back. I can't jaylen brown and I don't. I'm not even familiar with her game. You know what I mean. But we let I feel like we let a good piece go. Yeah, yeah, a couple of good pieces, a couple of good pieces. But I'm more so saying Odyssey, odyssey, sims man, she gave us buckets, she did, she started. I believe she started.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she was definitely starting.

Speaker 1:

So like I get that she was on a hardship contract.

Speaker 2:

You got to work something out, man and she at home. Figure it out, figure it out, let's go. That's the hometown hero, right?

Speaker 1:

you gotta figure that out, you have to like, legitimately have to like. I just feel like the wings are continuing to disappoint me, the, the management, not not the team itself, but the management is piss poor in my opinion.

Speaker 2:

In my opinion sound like one of my coaches.

Speaker 1:

No I'm just being honest here.

Speaker 2:

You dropped the ball on angel reese I don't even know how you let that. Oh yeah, we yeah, and we talked about it.

Speaker 1:

I'm not I'm not going into detail, but I'm just. I'm just highlighting what the wings are doing wrong currently. You drop the ball of injuries. You have the number five fucking pick and you and you drop the ball on that. Then you don't. Well, but even before then you don't even sign odyssey to, uh, what I quote unquote a long-term deal, whatever that means. You don't sign her to that, you let her go. Um, then you pick her up. You know, when you figure out that you're playing with the injury bug and you don't have enough people on your team to play sign to this hardship license, she goes out her first game, she dropping 18 and I believe I was there for that game that right gets the links.

Speaker 1:

She dropped 18 off the street off the street that Off the street. That's crazy, am I?

Speaker 2:

lying? No, you're not. I'm just saying no, I know I'm just saying Like off the street 18.

Speaker 1:

I get it, enrique is a very special player. She's good, she get the buckets, but she can't do it alone. Nobody can do it alone. Like literally no one can do it alone. Nobody can do it alone. Literally no one can do it alone. When you have a player like Odyssey or like Monique that consistently can give you maybe 10 to 15 a night, you kind of want to hang those players around.

Speaker 2:

You want to keep those players around a little bit I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I need that consistent scoring. I need that consistent, you know, participation, like I need that. If you're giving me something positive and it's working and you have, you know, the crowd behind you, I need that. Make it happen. Yeah, make it happen, but business is business. I don't know what had to happen for you know, for them to be able to wave those two players. It is what it is, I guess at this point it is, but I would have loved to see both of them, especially Odyssey, you know still be on the team in the second half.

Speaker 1:

And yeah so, odyssey, we still pulling for you.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully the wings get together. You to a long term, for sure. But speaking of the Wings, though, didn't you say that they were the most we talked about earlier?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the highest valued team in the WNBA. So right now, the Dallas Wings are worth $208 million. Coming in first place, that's crazy Over the Las Vegas Aces. Yeah. Million dollars coming in first place, that's crazy over las vegas aces, yeah you know. And they, those are back-to-back champions. So the dallas wings are worth 208 million. The aces fall number two at 140 million, the seattle storm 135 million, the new york Liberty sitting at 130 million, and we'll stop here with the Phoenix Mercury at 105 million.

Speaker 2:

So that's a, that's a, um interesting fact.

Speaker 1:

What's crazy is two, I believe two. I don't know. I don't know what their title is, but they actually bought a state, a 1% state, into the Dallas wingsings for $2.8 million, really, yeah, and that's what boosted their. That's 1% and that's what boosted their value to $208 million.

Speaker 2:

I wonder what that is worth. 1% putting that much money in. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

We're not getting that it's going to be 1% of not, it's gonna be one percent I'm just saying yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was a good investment yeah, I will say this like but that all goes to show and I I don't want to keep harping on that swings, but I feel like I have to because I just feel like obviously somebody sees you have a product, they're willing to put $2.8 million apiece into it. Yeah, fans deserve better.

Speaker 2:

Fans deserve better and they show up, man, especially this season. Man, come on, and we've been. You have to keep this, and then it's going to Dallas.

Speaker 1:

Come on Right, even a bigger city, you have to keep the fan support, so you have to make management. I'm not trying to tell you how to run the team. I'm just saying you have to make better decisions. You want to sell tickets and you want to win games. This is nothing against Eureka. Like I said before, she's great, but she can't do it by herself and Sato's coming back from an injury Again. I didn't watch a lot of Olympics. Did you watch any of the Germany games?

Speaker 2:

I didn't catch all of them.

Speaker 1:

Well, the reason why I'm asking is like how did she look?

Speaker 2:

She did. Okay. She still was on the sideline, kind of like, you know, laboring yeah, not laboring, but like they were icing, they were heating. She's not ready, you know, but they're going to do that. Absolutely Try to keep it loose, yeah, when you have an injury like that and you're coming back and you ain't played in a while. They're going to treat it.

Speaker 1:

Well, which is good. So we're going to see don't try to win it this year, don't try to make the playoffs. You got two options you take for Paige, take for Paige Hashtag. Take for Paige.

Speaker 2:

If they get the number one pick. If they do Lose out. What's the second option?

Speaker 1:

Well, I guess, gabby, you just have to pick her up. I'm just going to pick up.

Speaker 2:

Gabby. If you're going to pick up Gabby, you might as well you can't tank, then yeah, you just might as well have kept Odyssey nah, that's different. I don't know she was contributing. She was and the chemistry was there. The chemistry was there. I don't know she was contributing, she was and the chemistry was there.

Speaker 1:

The chemistry was there You're right, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's move on.

Speaker 2:

One more thing about the WNBA. I was just scrolling on the internet the Valkyries they coming. They are coming and they done already started selling gear.

Speaker 1:

That's what I was gonna say, yeah, I'm like that purple and blue, I like it.

Speaker 2:

I ain't gonna lie what I saw. I saw a hoodie. I was like okay, well, I just like repping wmba gear period, like I mean, that's the thing I feel like with the wmba, you can pretty much wear whatever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because we're just trying to promote Right, absolutely, I agree with that. Before we get out of the WNBA, though, second half of the season, let's just do the top five right now. New York Liberty they're sitting at number one 22-4. Connecticut Suns, sitting at number two 18-6. Minnesota Lynx 18-8. Number four Seattle storm 17 and eight in the Las Vegas aces 16, eight veils. How do you see this? How do you see the second half of the season playing out?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a tough one. So I think, oh, I think Connecticut gonna be hungry and and they're going to do their thing. Uh, the New York Liberty, and they're going to do their thing. The New York Liberty, they just won tonight. They blew out, I believe, the Sparks. They may be the team to beat in the end. I think they're hooping, but I think Connecticut is right behind them. It's being competitive.

Speaker 2:

The Aces, the Aces, uh-oh. Be honest, I don't know if I see them winning it this year. I don't, and I'm an advocate for the aces, but to me it's looking like they're slowing down now. Asia's still having an mvp year. Yeah, she gonna do her thing, but to me I think it's starting to kind of it from what I see. I think chelsea, which she didn't play much in the Olympics, probably for a reason Because she wants to save it all for, you know, try to get a WNBA championship. But I just I don't know, I don't know. I don't know if I see it. I don't know if I see them winning this Like. To me it's either going to be the New York Liberty and the Connecticut Sun.

Speaker 1:

out of those two, let me ask you this too do you think there's been a balance of power?

Speaker 2:

yes, I think it's settling out, but we knew that the New York Liberty was a super team last season, they were in the finals, weren't they? Yes, absolutely but they, coming Stu, got the hoop in the olympics. I feel like it's almost an unfair advantage. I'm just looking at it at the from this perspective the ones who kept playing, kept playing that's true yeah, they good.

Speaker 2:

Y'all gotta catch up now, and that's why I feel like uh phoenix played the chicago scott tonight. That's why I feel like you know they looked how tonight. That's why I feel like you know they looked how they look Because Brittany had been in the Olympics, diana, sarasi and Kalaya.

Speaker 1:

Yep Kalaya Copper, yep.

Speaker 2:

And so they've been still practicing Playing with better talent Yep. Playing against better talent Yep, absolutely. And I'm not trying to put their teammates there, but I'm just saying, like they kept hooping, you know, I mean, so they ain't got to warm back up right and so I think that's an advantage. Almost it is in my eyes you know, I mean so new york liberty stew um even connecticut, the connecticut sun um. The point guard played Alyssa Thomas Yep. You know now the Aces played too. You know they had Asian.

Speaker 2:

Pretty much they started five Chelsea, you know Kelsey and Jackie, yeah, yeah, they started five, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Dang, chelsea, kelsey, jackie, I was talking about the three. Yeah, never mind, it don't matter, you missed it Anyway. So their legs are still going, they've been hooping, they've been getting meaningful buckets and I just mean, I think that that means something. I'm just looking at it from that perspective, but we'll see. I think that Kaylin is ready to come back and try to snatch the Rookie of the Year award all the way from Angel, even though Angel had a double-double tonight 11-15.

Speaker 1:

Let's go.

Speaker 2:

You know it's. I don't know, we'll see. It's just one of those things where you really can't predict. You just got to watch.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. And so I'm excited about the second half of the wmba season okay, with all that being said, and then we'll move on after this. We've seen how the first half of the season played out, and you got your predictions for the second half. Who is coming out of the east and who is coming out of the West?

Speaker 2:

As far as like finals or what Finals?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like, who's going to make it? Who's going to be the last two teams standing?

Speaker 2:

It's going to be New York, mm-hmm, and I guess it's going to be the Aces again. And I forgot to mention Minnesota too. They've been hooping too. Yeah, they have been. But anyway, new York and the Aces. You think it's going to be a repeat of that? I think so. Now I can see Phoenix trying to snatch it from the Aces.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, because they've been there, copper's, on a mission, I can see that she's been playing with a chip.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, to me, I feel like I think Chicago and Indiana is just going to be for entertainment. Yeah, absolutely, you know if they stay in the top eight. But yeah, I think it's going to be New York, it's going to be a rematch of last year's finals.

Speaker 1:

I'm taking and, yes, that would be my second choice, but I feel like Connecticut is going to sneak in there. They're going to find a way. I just do. I feel like they're going to find a freaking way to get into the finals and I do believe the Aces that Minnesota and Aces Minnesota's in the West right Should be. Yeah, that's going to be a tough battle. Oh, I hate to do this Vance, it's probably going to be the Lynx.

Speaker 2:

You thinking that.

Speaker 1:

I think at this point in time, yes, like the only reason the Aces are playing. Well, I would say Asia. Asia's playing with a I don't know she's playing with a chip. I think she's still pissed off that she didn't get MVP last year Because she's playing different. She's playing outside of her mind, but I just feel like like I don't know, I don't think the rest of the aces are playing at her level right now they don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that's right and that's why I said they're slowing down, but she's at the same level, yeah she hoping, and the links.

Speaker 1:

I don't watch a lot of their games, but the games I catch. They just rally. Yeah, they rally, and, and and Nafisa Collier is definitely the captain, the leader of that team.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, and she. She also played in the Olympic team.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And got plenty of burn.

Speaker 1:

Yes, she did and hit some big shots. And Kayla McBride, kayla Mc Buckets I wish I could see my face Like she hoops, she gets buckets. So it's like I think at this given point in time I could see Connecticut in the links and the fines, just because of what I'm seeing, just because. Alyssa Thomas is just. She's out. Dejanay Carrington's just having a career year.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's starring in her role.

Speaker 1:

Dejanay Carrington's just having a career year.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's starring in her role. You know what I mean and that's what you have to get players to understand is like look, you don't have to be the main scorer or whatever the case. It's like, as long as you do what you're supposed to do in your role and you're good at it, you are contributing. That's how you get playing Tom.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

Let me just let me stop. That's how you get playing time, yep, but yeah, yeah, I, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that at all. Connecticut and the links and the finals I am not mad at that. I can actually see that happening as well. I just think that it's going to be the liberty and the aces and I want to be. And it's so good because we can talk about this now and see how it plays out.

Speaker 1:

I love that part of it, but yeah. Alright, so yeah, we gotta move on from the WNBA. Let's go, and I may not be excited, as I was in years past, but we gotta do it anyway. We gotta talk about it anyway, so let's just get to it.

Speaker 2:

Beasy, please drop the beat.

Speaker 1:

The NFL is back. Bills, it's back. Are you excited? I'm not.

Speaker 2:

Why not? I'm a Cowboys fan and that's really all I got to say. I don't have much to say about it. I haven't seen a lot of good things this past summer, you know, surrounding them. I'll let you, you know, go into details about it. But I'm just not excited Like I haven't been. Like looking at my closet like, ooh, I can't wait to wear my. Ooh, I'm wearing this. No, normally this is when I start shaking the wrinkles out, shaking the wrinkles out of them, shirts and, you know, hanging them up, but I haven't had that feeling.

Speaker 2:

I'm still going to rock my gear, but yeah, it's not. I'm not feeling it right now.

Speaker 1:

I feel you Because I'm not either. I'm not either. I'm just not ecstatic about this upcoming season. Like reason, as you said, being Cowboys fans, we really don't have anything to be excited about. But before we actually get into our cowboys talk, let's just kind of talk about overall, just the league in general. How do you see the whole league shaking up at the end, like, what do you see? This is way too early predictions, way everything. We're just spitballing here. What do do you see this coming? How this is going to end. Who is your Super Bowl favorite, right?

Speaker 2:

now, right now, I'm going to just say the Kansas City Chiefs. You got the Chiefs, or the Niners.

Speaker 1:

Or the Niners.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm going to say right now.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be a little daredevil. I think Houston, okay, I don't know why, though I'm going to be a little daredevil.

Speaker 2:

I think Houston. Okay, I don't know why, though I'm not mad at that. I don't know why I see.

Speaker 1:

Houston is and I saw it last year like Houston is dangerous. They got Stephon Diggs. They acquired Stephon Diggs over the offseason, which is crazy.

Speaker 2:

Houston about to be lit. Oh, houston about to be lit.

Speaker 1:

Oh, Houston about to be insane, Stroud, he coming back from his sophomore year. He's only going to get better. You saw what he did his rookie year. He's only going to get better. I think Houston may find a way to be in the Super Bowl next year. In my real, real opinion and Houston is looking kind of good to me Like Cowboys better get it together. Do you think, though, and we're just going to get into the Cowboys talk. Do you see the Cowboys winning the divisionboys talk Do you see the Cowboys winning the division.

Speaker 1:

No, who do you think is going to be Philly?

Speaker 2:

Yep, Probably, and I hate to say that Obviously it makes me sick to my stomach. I just don't see they. Who did they just get?

Speaker 1:

They just got Saquon right, yeah, yeah, they did and they, they don't.

Speaker 2:

I just I don't see it for the cowboys right now. I'm saying that right now. Now things could change over the season and they could prove me wrong, but right now I see philly winning the division okay, let's do this, let's.

Speaker 1:

Let's do this, let's play a game. I like games. I want to see if you're going to change your answer after we kind of go through the schedule. Okay, first game of the season. We got the Browns and we play in Cleveland. Who wins that game?

Speaker 2:

I'll say the Cowboys will win that game. Okay.

Speaker 1:

That's one win for the Cowboys. Keep your own score. Then the next following week we got the Saints and Cowboys at home. Saints got to come to us, Cowboys Okay. Then we have the Ravens coming to visit Ravens All right. Then we got to go see the Giants oh, Cowboys. Then we got to make a trip to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 2:

Oh, and they have.

Speaker 1:

Russell.

Speaker 2:

Wilson and Brandon Fields right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but only one can play all the time.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to take the Cowboys in that game.

Speaker 1:

Okay, then the Lions come to town.

Speaker 2:

Detroit, I'm going to give it to town Detroit, I'm going to give it to Detroit.

Speaker 1:

Then we have to go visit the 49ers.

Speaker 2:

Niners.

Speaker 1:

Then we have to go visit the Falcons Cowboys. Then the Eagles come to town. Eagles. Texans come to town Texans. We go visit the Commanders Cowboys. The Giants come to town Cowboys. Then the Bengals come to town. I'm going to go Cowboys. We take a trip to visit the Panthers Cowboys. The Buccaneers come to town Cowboys. We have to go visit the Eagles.

Speaker 2:

Eagles.

Speaker 1:

And then the Commanders come to town Cowboys.

Speaker 2:

What did you win with? So that's 11-6.

Speaker 1:

Does that win you the division?

Speaker 2:

No, because I feel like the Eagles will win more games than we will.

Speaker 1:

That's fair.

Speaker 2:

Is that?

Speaker 1:

11-6? Yeah, that's 17.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I think the eagles are gonna be good. I just don't know why, but I I feel like they're gonna be competitive, I feel like they're gonna be tough to beat um, and I just think they're gonna win a division. I just don't see it right. I don't see it for us. We got too much going on right now. We just got way too much going on, I agree. Agree. He's injured, ain't he Right now? And he's not, you know. And then you got CeeDee. He's holding out.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. We got Zeke back, but Zeke ain't really making no noise like that, no, and we lost some people. We lost somebody to injury already, like for the season, like it's just not looking good for us. And I want to say that, like last year, I felt it. I felt like, nah, I don't know, but it also was like, you know, but we could, because I had us going last year, I had us going like 13 and 4, I think, and um, and we did, but we just fumbled in the playoffs.

Speaker 1:

No pun intended yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so Fumbled hard. But this year I just don't see it at all.

Speaker 1:

I'm with you. I'm not mad. I'm with you. I don't see it because of what happened in the playoffs Mm-hmm, like, what a letdown, and we've already rehashed it, so I'm not gonna even go through it. But that puts me in the position where I feel the way I feel right now, where I just don't care. I just I just don't care. Now I'm gonna watch the games, because I'm just a stupid loyal cowboy fan.

Speaker 1:

But as far as the emotion, I I literally cannot give it and I know I've always, I've been saying it. I just literally cannot give that emotion right now. Because why, why? And then then you got your dumb ass owner, jerry jones, refusing to pay cee Lamb for whatever god dang me reason. I don't know, I need to be in those meetings.

Speaker 1:

Okay, no, I feel you, because I need to know what is being discussed. I get it. Ceedee Lamb is wanting to get Justin Jefferson money. Right now Justin Jefferson is getting four years for 140 million dollars, which is probably probably like 35 million dollars a year. Again we're just having chit chat. Is cd lamb deserving of justin jefferson money?

Speaker 2:

I can, okay, so I can see CD making like $20 to $25 million a year Somewhere around that range $10 million less than Jay Jettis. And it's not even a not though, Because you're still getting $20 million a year. It's not a not.

Speaker 1:

But he is arguably top three. Yeah, he is. He is Okay, so if Justin is getting $35, then okay, he is, he is Okay.

Speaker 2:

So if Justin is getting 35, then okay, cd can get 30. I can see that, but Jerry, for some reason, is refusing to pay him. So we have to figure out what works.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you're going to have to let somebody go, and that's the thing. That's what I really want to get into. It got to be that. And if F all the other stuff, let's talk about this for real. If we give CD Lam 35 plus million a year, somebody's not getting paid. It's either gonna be Michael Parsons or it's gonna be Dak.

Speaker 2:

Let's get rid of Dak let's just get rid of Dak. Let's just get rid of him. I've given my all to Dak. I've believed in him. You know I have been frustrated with him. Then I believed in him again and by numbers, by paper, he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely he is, but when you watch, that's why numbers are starting not to mean much to me in certain sports, in certain players. Because when you don't do what I need you to do or what your fans need you to do, what your organization needs you to do, you don't come up in the big moments. And we've seen it time after time. And I'm not saying like I'm giving up on that right now because obviously he's going to be our quarterback, right, but I would much rather, if we have to get rid of somebody, it would be that dakota rain, dakota Rain, prescott, prescott, that's who I would. You can find you a quarterback, sure, bring Kaepernick, I don't care, do what you gotta do, but if somebody gotta get rid of, it's gonna be that okay and see, I agree with you and the reason why I agree with you.

Speaker 1:

You're singing a different tone of this. You're singing a different tone maybe, but the only reason why I'm saying that? Because I just, I just remember in 2016 now it's been some years and you can debate me on that, it's okay, yeah you were so ready to get rid of Tony Romo, you ground Dak the the becoming he was. I told y'all to wait, slow down. I told y'all to slow down I said wait, let the man develop he was, though he developed.

Speaker 2:

Come on, we've seen it with our eyes. Like I said, his numbers don't lie.

Speaker 1:

We've had some really good wins, but we've also seen that he has never risen up in the moments where it mattered.

Speaker 2:

He has never, never I can't justify the time we beat tampa bay. Justify the time we beat Tampa Bay Tom Brady True when he was about to retire.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I beat the shade. Okay, other than that, like he has never, dude you, let freaking Jordan love march into your stadium and made you look like a JV team. The game was over in the Okay. I'm sorry I am not talking about the playoffs anymore, but this is why I'm not excited about this season. I can't justify giving him $60 million a year.

Speaker 2:

It ain't my money.

Speaker 1:

But I can't stand behind an organization that is willing to give somebody $60 freaking million a year that has not proven a damn thing. You want a playoff game what's that new? Give me my money Yay, give me my money. You know what I I'm saying? You want a playoff game yay okay 60 million.

Speaker 2:

You know the playoff game to get quiet like if we was on video.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, I'm saying so I can't. Jerry, I don't know what you're doing with cd lamb. I don't know what you're doing with CeeDee Lamb. I don't know what kind of game weird, kind of weird game you're playing with him. Give him his bread. Give him his bread. He does definitely deserve his $35 or whatever million dollars, because who else is out there, jerry?

Speaker 2:

is a that guy.

Speaker 1:

He is a that guy, and you know what it reminds me of. Ceedee Lamb is all but 22, 23 years old, dak is 30, 31.

Speaker 2:

You know what it reminds me of what? Jerry was also a Jason Garrett guy, and we see. You know, when he's loyal to somebody, he's loyal to them, and it could be to the detriment of the organization. You know, when he's loyal to somebody, he's loyal to them, and it could be to the detriment of the organization it definitely is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you bring up a valid point. And that is the problem. This is why the cowboys are stuck in this cycle of mediocrity. How about I say that right, like, that's where we are. We're stuck on just being good enough. We can't get a viable pick because we're good enough. We'll make the playoffs, we may win a playoff game, so we can't pick in the lottery, we can't go grab us a top-tier quarterback because we're just good enough. There was somebody had proposed a question online like should you just trade Micah and then just get draft capital? I hated that idea. I thought that was stupid. But do you, if we're rebuilding even though though they never said we were rebuilding, but it's obviously very freaking clear that we're rebuilding Do you trade Micah for draft capital?

Speaker 2:

We can't get rid of Micah man.

Speaker 1:

So I mean you can't keep all three. I know you said Dak got to go.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Who's your quarterback? We got to find one. Are you in a Trey Lance?

Speaker 2:

No, because I mean well, maybe, maybe, or if we can get one off the street, we'll be all right, but I would much rather have somebody now off the street.

Speaker 1:

Than Dak.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm playing.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm playing, no, I'm playing, no, I'm playing.

Speaker 2:

but that's how serious I am when I say like I would much rather get rid of him than anybody else. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

I know and I get it. I just thought that was an interesting thing about the Micah and draft pace. Like truly, like. I said when I first I'm like man, this is dumb as hell. But I was like what I'm like? Nah, our defense, like I never even cared about defense until micah came, because michael was like fun on defense.

Speaker 2:

You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean, let me ask you one more this before we get out of here is mike mccarthy on the hot seat this season?

Speaker 2:

yeah, of course, yes you don't, you don't do, you don't take care of business this season. You gone.

Speaker 1:

So what is it? So let's layer it. Is it Super Bowl or bust, or playoff win or bust?

Speaker 2:

What is it? You at least got to go two rounds deep or bust.

Speaker 1:

That's fair.

Speaker 2:

Two rounds deep or bust. And that's sad because I want us to win a Super Bowl, but two rounds deep or bust, or bust.

Speaker 1:

So Mike McCarthy's done.

Speaker 2:

If he doesn't go two rounds he's done.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Is Bill Parcells, not Bill Parcells. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

Bill.

Speaker 1:

Belichick is he in.

Speaker 2:

Bill, yeah, I can see that. I can see that happening. Should have been this year anyway, but yeah, I can see that happening.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of hard. I mean, is mike mccarthy the problem?

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying he's the problem, but sometimes you do need different coaches to bring things out of you that you didn't know you had. Sometimes a change is good, that's. You may have won with aaron rogers back, you know, in in green bay, but maybe this just ain't the system or just the organization you know for you Right. But it's a combination of things Makes sense. It's going to be a long season, vils.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, long season, and I'm not mad at CD Land for holding out Get your money, it sucks. I hope that a resolution can be resolved soon. Uh, like I said, I'm stepping 110 behind veils, like if somebody gotta go, that we thank you, we appreciate you for all that you have done, but there comes a point in time where you just gotta say goodbye and I'll be okay with that. You never can say no. But seriously, though, like I'm not trading micah, I I'm not getting rid of CeeDee Lamb. Those are young pieces that you, unfortunately, you haven't proven enough. Like you've gotten us to where we can succeed, but you haven't taken us over the hump, and that's the thing. We have not gotten over the hump. Yep, we have not gotten over the hump.

Speaker 1:

And if you're demanding $65 million or $60 million, I cannot justify that. I don't sign the check. It ain't my money. I know all of that, but I can't, I'm not willing. Let me tell you this If the Cowboys are willing to part with CeeDee Lamb, to try to sign that to 60 something million dollars, I will take my fandom down 35. I will be a Houston Texas fan. Uh oh, I wouldn't be able to do it anymore because and I'm probably lying I am probably lying you are.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to sound believable, but it's okay that don't make any sense, but we're gonna get out of here man?

Speaker 2:

I am probably not, you are I wanted it to sound believable, but it's okay, but it's colors.

Speaker 1:

That don't make any sense. But, we're going to get out of here man Long episode. Have fun. I got who I said I had. At the end I had. We didn't do Super Bowl prediction, did we? We did, damn.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember that Who'd you say you had Kansas City Chiefs winning.

Speaker 1:

All of it, who was coming out of the NFC? Oh, you didn't have that. Okay, Kansas City. My prediction I could see these Chiefs going again, but for some reason, I don't even know why, and it's really left field. I can see the Detroit Lions. I can see the Detroit Lions winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2:

Like I said before, it's so great that we get to see yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because I'm going to say this real quick Detroit showed a lot of heart last year and they were definitely pissed off when they lost against San Francisco because they were supposed to win that game. And I'm telling you they're coming back strong. That coach they have Dabal I can't remember his name anyway that coach they had. He he's the type of guy that not Zondavol, I can't remember his name, anyway, that coach they had he he's the type of guy that you can tell the players run through walls for the way he amps them up, gets them ready. That is a different Detroit Lion team and and I really do hate to say that, but yeah, I got Detroit probably winning the Super Bowl in 2025 alright, we'll see alright, y'all.

Speaker 1:

That's episode 31. It I got Detroit probably winning the Super Bowl in 2025. All right, all right, we'll see. All right, y'all. That's episode 31. It's been real, it's been fun. We're going to get up out of here like this it's the one and only Elyse.

Speaker 2:

And it's your girl, Vils, aka Villy Ville, if that's what you want to call me.

Speaker 1:

And together we are Lock in sports Peace.

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