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Trading Places: When Superstars Pack Their Bags
Basketball's landscape has been dramatically reshaped through a series of earth-shattering trades and roster moves that have left fans stunned and excited for what comes next.
The WNBA has entered a new era with the creation of superteams across the league. We dive into the New York Liberty's championship victory and analyze how the league's competitive balance has shifted through major offseason trades. Kelsey Plum heading to the LA Sparks, Alyssa Thomas joining the Phoenix Mercury, and the shocking dismantling of the Connecticut Sun's starting five highlight a transformative period in women's basketball.
Perhaps most exciting is the Indiana Fever's aggressive team-building around sophomore Caitlin Clark, adding veterans like DeWanna Bonner to create a legitimate championship contender. We examine these moves alongside the WNBA draft landscape, where Paige Bueckers, Olivia Miles, and other collegiate stars could further transform the league.
The basketball revolution extends beyond the WNBA season with the Unrivaled League, co-founded by Breanna Stewart and Napheesa Collier, bringing electrifying 3v3 competition featuring WNBA stars during the offseason. This innovative format showcases players like Skylar Diggins-Smith hitting game winners and Angel Reese dominating the boards.
But nothing compares to the seismic NBA trade sending 25-year-old generational talent Luka Dončić from the Dallas Mavericks to the Los Angeles Lakers for Anthony Davis. We unpack this stunning development from both perspectives – the heartbreak of Mavericks fans watching their franchise cornerstone depart, and the potential championship implications for LeBron's Lakers.
Whether you're a WNBA enthusiast, NBA devotee, or simply someone who appreciates dramatic sports storylines, this episode delivers comprehensive analysis of a transformative moment in basketball history. Share your thoughts on these blockbuster moves – which team improved most, and who will ultimately win these franchise-altering trades? Grab a glass and a bottle of wine and LET'S TALK SPORTS!!!!!
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Produced by : Chalyse "Lyse" Dishmon, Kevelle "Velz" Harmon, Blair Beezy, and Nuchie
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Speaker 2:Yo, yo, yo, it's the one and only lease and it's, it's your girl, vels, aka Velly Vell, if that's what you want to call me, and together we are.
Speaker 1:Locked In Sports. Yo, here we come again with another bonus episode. Hey, I told y'all it was a lot of stuff going on and we already talked about the NFL, but we definitely got to touch on the WNBA and the NBA.
Speaker 2:Craziness, craziness, bills, yep, super crazy.
Speaker 1:Super crazy. All right, Look you know what? I can't even say it Beasy, drop the beat Girls. We run this mother. All right, the WNBA.
Speaker 1:You know, when we play that that means it's the WNBA. And the last time we was on, I mean we were kind of like getting off into like the playoffs or the finals maybe. So just kind of recap all of that, the New York Liberty ended up going home with the chip. Mm-hmm up going home with the chip and I I definitely could see them doing that, but you know I was rocking with the Aces. I thought the Aces were going to definitely was it the three-peat?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it would have been a three-peat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely had the Aces three-peating, but unfortunately the Liberty knocked them out and they went on to uh win the chip yep anything you gotta say about that no, I think, much deserving.
Speaker 2:I believe, whenever they made those big trades a few years back, I think that we deemed these two teams as super teams and um it, it felt right. Um, because I mean honestly that first year, whenever that new york team had got together, I thought that they were gonna win it all, but they didn't. Obviously, the aces took care of business, but you know, I I thought that the liberties time was soon coming and you know, they took care of business, they did their thing, yeah they took their business, yeah they did um, and it was actually some controversy too um, that final series with, uh, I believe, the minnesota links and new york liberty.
Speaker 1:uh, it was like a controversial call that was either I can't remember if it was called a foul was called or a foul was not called and that kind of sealed the fate for the Minnesota Lynx. I believe that was like game four or something like that. I can't remember, now it's been hella months.
Speaker 2:Was that the Western Conference or the Eastern? I mean, was that the Eastern Conference Finals?
Speaker 1:It was the Finals.
Speaker 2:It was the.
Speaker 1:Liberty. It was like the Final Finals. They either called a foul on the FISA and it really wasn't a foul.
Speaker 2:Right, so who was in the finals again?
Speaker 1:Liberty and the Lynx.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay yeah, because she's still kind of like Salty about it, salty about it, and she also admitted to being a sore loser, which is fine, especially in those kind of moments.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, i'm'm gonna be a sore loser. Like, yeah, because we were that close to our goal and you took it, you snatched it from us right. So you know, and moments like that, it's like you shouldn't let you know. Um, it shouldn't come down to one call from the referees, man, that means you know, but it that was a really good series. It got a lot of ratings, like it was. Man, the WNBA is definitely on that upswing that me and Vils I feel like me and Vils had a lot.
Speaker 1:I ain't going to say a lot to do with it, but we had something to do with it, because we've definitely been shouting out the WNBA now for quite a bit of time, way before it started getting hella popular. So, man, just continue to support. But a lot of offseason moves have been made. Yes, they have, like the dub has been shaken up, like literally shaken up. Teams that were like contending have now blown up their whole teams like and I, and. And one thing that stands out to me I remember at the end of the aces season, right when the liberty had, you know, kicked about the playoffs, you know they beat them becky said and I'm talking about coach becky hammond she said this will not.
Speaker 1:the team that you see today will not be the same team that you'll see next season, right? So it had us all kind of like who, who ain't gonna be here, who ain't gonna be here, who's not going to be coming back? Um, and recently we found out who would not be back with the aces, and that is kelsey plum. Yep, kelsey plum. Kelsey Plum did a trade with. It was a three-team trade. It was the Aces, the Seattle Storm and the Los Angeles Sparks. So Kelsey Plum is going to LA, joy Lloyd is coming to the Aces and I believe the Storm got the number two draft pick in a player and I'm sorry I don't have all that information pulled up, but they did get a player. But the biggest thing for them, they got the number two pick in this year's draft. So let's stop right here. Vails Kelsey Plum to the Lakers, to the Sparks. How do you feel about that? What does that do for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's a good move for the Sparks. I think that Kelsey Plum brings not only like a veteran presence to that young Sparks team, but also she brings buckets to the Sparks team. And when you think about the rookie this past year, Jackson right, Rekia, rekia Jackson and Cameron Brink. And Brink, who Brink went out early with a seizing and an injury.
Speaker 2:Yeah who went out early with a seizing and an injury. Yeah, and then just everything about the Sparks Club. I think that it's a good move for them. And then, not only to mention a girl that had been going off recently and getting buckets, not recently but during the season, during the Sparks season what was her name? Golly who.
Speaker 1:Oh, De'Erica Hamby.
Speaker 2:De'Erica, de'erica. I mean, I think that it's a good move for the Sparks. I think that you know they're going to be young, they're going to be gritty, they're going to be competitive. I hope that Brink comes back. You know a better version of herself, but I just think that it brings a good.
Speaker 1:I think Kelsey brings a good like I said, veteran presence and also she brings buckets yeah, and for a while too she had been saying that she kind of wanted to be the guy or the woman, and I think going to the Sparks, yeah she would be. I mean, rakia jackson man, she's gonna just be, I think, if not more dominant than she was this past season. I think she put put up a hell of rookie showcase. You know what I mean yeah she was.
Speaker 1:She was damn near averaging a double double. You know I'm saying rakia was giving you 15-plus buckets a game. So I think the addition of Kelsey Plum just makes the Sparks that much more tougher, that much more scarier, and I've seen that being a good fit for her. Honestly. I can see her being a spark.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Obviously, we're going to miss her on the aces um. Obviously we're gonna miss her on the aces um. But I mean, I think she got a good replacement out of jewel lloyd. Uh, that's for dang sure um, man, you know.
Speaker 1:You know what jewel lloyd brings and she's a walking bucket too, and there were times where kelsey, you know I'm saying was inconsistent. Same thing with jewel lloyd she can, she could fly inconsistent, you know I'm saying was inconsistent. Same thing with your lawyer she can, she can fly inconsistent you know what I mean more consistent than Kelsey? Yeah, exactly, so I think you. If the storm is offering that up, I think you gotta take that trade every day, and twice on Sunday you just have to.
Speaker 1:So I think the aces have become more dangerous, especially on the offensive side, with the addition of Jewel Lloyd. Yeah, I mean, think about that. You have Asia, you have Jackie Young, you have Chelsea Gray, and now you have added a Jewel Lloyd. That's tough, that's scary business, it is.
Speaker 2:So I am not mad at that trade at all, not either it's gonna is, is this gonna be an interesting year in the wmba oh, definitely so.
Speaker 1:Um man, another surpriser. Uh, I remember when I was saying that teams that were actually contending have now blown up their whole squad. I I'm definitely talking about the Connecticut Sun here. The Connecticut Sun has literally dismantled their starting five and they, at the time, were contenders. They were contenders last year. Alyssa Thomas was the first domino to fall. She is now playing with the Phoenix.
Speaker 2:Mercury, which is crazy.
Speaker 1:I think that is a hell of a pickup for Phoenix there, especially with Brittany Griner is now playing and we'll get there. But Brittany Griner is now playing with the Atlanta Dream, which, like I said, we'll get there. That's not bad either, but think about it. Alyssa Thomas is now joining Kalaya Copper Diana Taurasi. I'm sure now they're getting all this information she's going to come back for another year and we'll get here. Also Asatu Sabali, but we'll get there. So Alyssa Thomas going to the finish. I was surprised. I didn't think that they was going to blow up the team the way they did, but here we are.
Speaker 2:How did you feel when you found out Alyssa Thomas was going to the Phoenix Mercury? I mean, it was shocking because, like it's Alyssa, and you saw what Connecticut was able to do, not just this past year, but like the previous seasons before that, and it's just a different, a different look, it's changed and I think, um man, it's just different, everything's just different. Now, like we're normally not used to seeing all of these moves happen in the wmba like this, right.
Speaker 2:I feel like this is ours, like all, the stars are like moving yeah, and I and we'll get to the NBA, but it's almost like kind of similar to the NBA with every like, all of the moves and changes that are happening, and so it's making it even that more interesting to like, pay attention and watch. And so, yeah, like I wasn't, I'm not, it's going to be different. Like she and I know Alyssa, like because she's playing in the unrivaled league right now, so I know Alyssa has a lot more to give to the game, right, and I guess this may be a little like, I don't know like it separates her and Dawana or whatever, but you know, like it is what it is, like it's a business and you know you can't expect them to continue to play together forever. But like I just I don't know. I think that it's.
Speaker 1:It's a good shakeup.
Speaker 2:It's a shakeup in the league.
Speaker 1:It's definitely a good shakeup in the league and you know things gonna look different in the w and I want to say this like with elissa being the first domino to fall from that connecticut team, I was just thinking, like what they got rid of their heart and soul, like, make no mistake at, was definitely the heart and soul of that team.
Speaker 1:So once that happened, I knew they was in a rebuild and I'm trying to figure out like why are y'all in a rebuild? Y'all was the top, y'all was number three team in the league?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you can still compete. It's just like why you don't have to fix it if it's not broke Right. You know what I mean. Right, maybe add another piece or something With these new players, I guess coming in the league soon and the way things shaped out. I just think that they felt like they had to do that.
Speaker 1:I think Connecticut hit the panic button because soon after D'Janae Carrington she got traded to our beloved Dallas Wings, which we're going to get there, man, but hell of a pickup for the Wings. No, it was. Hell of a pickup for the Wings, it was.
Speaker 2:Man D'Janae is like what you would consider, maybe a three and d, but I more so consider her more of a defensive stopper than anything and she just has that fire and that passion and I love to watch um on any level, whether it's a professional level, the collegiate level or like high school level um, you don't see it much at the junior high level, but like when someone loves to get stops and they take pride in stopping you from scoring, like so I like that type of player and the wings did pick somebody up in her like that type of player, that was man, and also Tyasha Harris, another, that's their point guard for the Suns.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, they blew up their starting five. She's also going to the Wings. Good, a good pick up there, a good pick up there. And then, last but not least, dejuana Bonner has also left Connecticut and she will be playing for the Indiana Fever. And let me tell you something Ooh, let me tell you about the, the Indiana Fever. And let me tell you something Ooh, let me tell you about the goddamn Indiana Fever.
Speaker 2:Ooh, they're starting to look different.
Speaker 1:That different they going to be different.
Speaker 2:Because it's the passion for me, because Dewana has always been a passionate player to me, she's a super competitor player. To me she's a super competitor and I think, just being a veteran presence in that indiana locker room, along with who's going to be a sophomore, uh, in the league rookie uh, she's not a rookie anymore, but she's going to be a sophomore in the league caitlyn clark, like it's. That's dangerous man. And then, not to not to mention that they re-signed.
Speaker 1:Kelsey.
Speaker 2:Mitchell, who had an amazing year this past year with the Indiana Fever.
Speaker 1:It's a little different Indiana, like for real on paper. You have to take notice. Think about this starting five. Listen to this Kaylin Clark, Kelsey, Mitchell, Aaliyah, Boston, DeJuan Abaner and I don't know who. The fifth one is because Nylissa Smith has been traded to the Dallas Wings and we're going to get all that to the Dallas Wings.
Speaker 2:Everything's different right now, man.
Speaker 1:So it's like think about that. Yo, hats off to the Indiana Fever organization for building a team around Kaitlyn Clark. They are not playing around. Did they make the playoffs and they lost, like in the first round, or something like that. They are built to go the distance. I'm telling you that right now. Yeah. Indiana Fever are built to go the distance. They are. So please take notice Now again. Like Bill said, this is going to be Kaitlyn Clark's sophomore year.
Speaker 2:Trust me, she's taking heed to what y'all tried to do to her last year, and she's getting a break, like she's getting a rest, like she's not playing in a rival league, she's not playing overseas and shout out to women who are getting their bread and getting their money, who don't, who aren't forced to have to play overseas. Now, like, you can stay home, you can rest your legs, you can work out, you can still like work on your skills and all that. But you don't. You're not forced to play because you need to make money, right, but yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it's yeah. She she's taking heat to everything that's been said about her. She remembers what her rookie year was like and being booed. You know what I mean. She had a whole lot of fans, but Kaitlyn Clark also had a whole lot of haters, and so, like I mean, it's brewing up to be something crazy and scary.
Speaker 1:It is. It really is. Oh, that's who it is. Natasha Howard from the Dallas Wings has signed with the Indiana Fever. So yeah, that's the starting five. Let me run that back to y'all again. So Kaitlyn Clark, kelsey Mitchell, natasha Howard, dewanda Bonner and Aaliyah Boston. That's a scary top five. Scary hours Like look, just get ready when the season starts because, Indiana Fever is not effing playing with none of y'all right um another. Okay, like satsu yeah yeah, unfortunately we we lost her um.
Speaker 1:She bent, she was traded um to the phoenix mercury along with, yeah, along with Kalani Brown, one of our twin towers man. So here's the thing, man, I said we don't need to keep both of them. We don't need to keep both of them. Either you gonna keep Tierra or you gonna keep Kalani. I wanted you to get rid of Tierra personally because I went to the games and Tierra, she gives out, she gives up on plays, she walks up and down the court. She don't be having no hustle. She always arguing with the refs Like that's who you get rid of.
Speaker 1:I actually like Kalani. I think Kalani plays harder Now. Is Tierra maybe the better big yeah, when she's more focused in and locked in on the game. But she's so busy doing other things that she's not focused. So I I felt like you should have kept kalani, got rid of tiara, but kalani brown is gone. And now with the uh, phoenix mercury, and again, that team is solid, that team is stacked. Um satu's coming back from injury, but even towards the end of the season, when she came back after the Olympics, she still was putting up solid numbers and, like Vel said, she's also getting some burn in in the unrivaled league and she's been hooping there and we'll talk more about the unrivaled league soon. But Phoenix is not to be F'd with eitheroenix is not to be f with you. A bonafide superstar and a team man hard-nosed player, kalaya copper, diana tarassi.
Speaker 1:Then you got, uh, sancho sabli, oh man yeah that's a team you got to be paying attention to. Like the shakeup of the WNBA is so different. Like everybody has a super team. Have you noticed? It's like the start of super teams dog Yep, yep, yep In the dug.
Speaker 2:It's balanced. It's a balanced league.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so the Aces ain't going to just run away with it like they used to Nah. Run away with it like they used to Nah Because you got to come out and play. Brittany Griner is now with Atlanta Dream Yep, you know what I'm saying, which is crazy. So you got Brittany Griner, you got Alicia Gray and you got Ron Howard. Come on. Yeah, Now granted, they lost Tina Charles. Tina Charles is now with Connecticut. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:But guess what Atlanta did? They went and got Breonna Jones from Connecticut oh, now that's tough they back court and their front court is disgusting yeah. Atlanta's not here to play with y'all at all come on y'all, the shake up is real it is the shake up is real, you better be paying attention.
Speaker 2:And Diana Taurasi? She hadn't announced her retirement.
Speaker 1:No, no, she wanted to see what they was going to do and they did and she coming back, I promise she coming back?
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:She want to run that back With that team. Yeah yeah, there's no going to be any pressure on Taurasi. Right, you know what I'm saying, who else? I mean? It's been so much, it's been a lot happening.
Speaker 2:It's been a lot happening. I mean, those are really like the big ones.
Speaker 1:Like I said, I was wanting Nalissa Smith to come to the wings. I felt like she would be good here. Mm-hmm, I just saw her play when the fever came and I was like you know what? That's what we need. We need a versatile big Because, like I said, the Twin Towers that we did have they wasn't doing that, they not moving around, they too big, them girls is big, and I don't mean being a fat, they just big, they thick, they thick with it. They drag a lot of weight and they don't move that fast, dragging them out of the way and they don't move that fast. So I was like, no, you need a versatile big in in. Uh, nalisa smith. So I'm glad that the basketball gods answered my prayer and she is playing for the wings and she got a lot to prove man, she did not have the the best season in indiana for different reasons, and so this is almost like a redemption year for her.
Speaker 1:So I hope she comes and she's from texas, so she's almost like she's home, right, so, hopefully, you know, with her being back home, a redemption year, she can just go crazy and teaming her up with Enrique and DJ Carrington. You know, I don't know how all that's going to go, you know.
Speaker 2:We still got a number one draft pick too.
Speaker 1:And we do. I was gonna get to that. Yeah, um and we do. We got that number one pick and we hope management does the right thing, um and and get you know page pb. So if it, I mean, the future looks bright for the wings man even though I am sad that sabaly is gone, I am not mad at how they're constructing this Wings team. I'm just not. And thank God we got new management in Like we had to go get a new GM because and a new coach.
Speaker 1:And a new coach. So we're going to see how that goes. But as far as management goes, I'm happy that we got a new GM that actually knows how to construct the basketball team, because I don't know what the hell they was trying to do these past few years. But, it's shaping up to be really good for the Dallas Wings.
Speaker 2:It is and, unfortunately, like this is the last year that they'll be playing in Arlington, which sucks because after this year they'll be moving on to play in Dallas. But, man, it's going to be an exciting year for the Wings. I can feel that.
Speaker 1:It is, it is and I want to say this real quick and we'll move on to the draft here- Okay. So Courtney Vandersloot, which was a part of the New York Liberty championship team. She is now going to be playing in Chicago. Does that move the needle at all for Chicago? No, no, um, does that move the needle at all for?
Speaker 2:chicago, do you think? No, it doesn't, it doesn't, no, and I don't really even have to, uh, go into detail, like I don't, I don't have to elaborate on it, like no it doesn't.
Speaker 1:it doesn't, I mean she's a shooter, which they do need shooters, but it it doesn't because you got to ask about a pass ball to her. So I don't know exactly what Chicago's plan is here. They don't really have a point guard. Diamond to Shields is now with Connecticut and, honestly, diamond to Shields was a non-factor anyway last season.
Speaker 2:And you still got Kennedy Carter coming back too. She is. She is one of the ones Kennedy Carter coming back too. She is. She is one of the ones that went overseas to play.
Speaker 1:She is.
Speaker 2:And she's making noise over there. She is, and so I think they're comfortable with her coming back and doing her thing and being the one to get them into their offense and deliver the ball and also create her own shot.
Speaker 1:She can. So I mean, you got Kennedy, you got Angel, you got Vander Sloot um that's no, I'm just saying um from south carolina I mean, yeah, but I'm what I mean. My pause was is is I'm not scared of that team no, no I mean it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1:I think it's gonna be tough for chicago this upcoming it is, and I and I and I feel bad because come on organizing, come on chicago. Y'all got a lot of fans, you got a lot of attention. You made no moves this offseason. Well, as of right now, you have made no moves Besides the game fans. Again, chicago needs shooters, but they also. I mean Kennedy Carter is good, but she can't play the whole game, can she?
Speaker 2:No, she can't. So you gotta have someone. And I mean, who knows what'll happen between now and the draft? And anybody they may, you know, decide to pick up, but like, yeah, there has to be somebody coming off the bench that can carry them until because we just because Kennedy Carter is a very passionate player and sometimes she gets herself into foul trouble and so, like you know, you have to have somebody coming off the bench that will be able to run the offense.
Speaker 2:Very true, I mean, and get a uh, angel the ball and everybody else the ball, so yeah, very true. Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, now let's get into the draft. I've been looking at a lot of these mock drafts cause I'm excited. You know, dallas wings have the number one pick of the draft and also throughout the trades we ended up with the eighth pick. Then we did a trade for Carrington, so now we got the 12th pick. So now we got a one and a 12. So as most have us down as picking. Paige Beckers at number one Vils. How do you feel about that? Should Paige go number one to Dallas?
Speaker 2:She should.
Speaker 1:That wasn't the tune you were saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, she should, but I feel like Paige Beckers is injury-prone. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And we've seen it throughout the course of her college or her collegiate career. And you know, I think that the Dallas Williams need to be really careful with making sure, like, hey, this is who we're going with, but I still think that she's exciting. I think that she will fill more seats. Obviously I think the Williams games were the Williams games were full and sold out but I think she will fill seats but at the same time, like, if she's not going to be able to play, it doesn't make sense. You know what I mean? True, the best ability is availability, that's true. But at the same time, I feel like she may be the best available in the draft.
Speaker 2:Now I'm looking at a couple of mock drafts and I feel like and I've seen this girl play with my own eyes, I've watched these games Olivia Mow own eyes. I've watched these games. Olivia Miles hey, like she is a hooper, she just hoops, she just hoops. Olivia Miles has been getting triple doubles this year, playing alongside Hannah Hildago, and I think that, whichever way the wings decided to go, I don't think that Paige will be a bad pick and I also don't think that Olivia will be a bad pick and I also don't think that Olivia would be a bad pick, but I mean oh because they flubbed on angel.
Speaker 1:They have to pick page.
Speaker 2:You have to because she's a star. She's a star in in college, she's a big name and, like you, have to go that route. If, if she, if they were to get though Olivia Miles, I don't think that people would be mad.
Speaker 1:And I think that she would fit well with the wings. Yeah, if you watch hoops, you won't be mad at picking Olivia Miles at number one, because she's been hooping for Notre Dame. And I can't wait for Hannah Hidalgo to get out, because I love her, hannah.
Speaker 2:I love her. I love Hannah too. She just she's so passionate, she cares about the game. She hoops, she backs up what she says and she don't talk a whole whole lot of noise but she stand on what she believes in. She stands on her, her, her confidence and her belief in her game. And I really, really like Hannah you know what I mean. And so, yeah, I also like Kiki Irv, the forward. Like I think she can go get her own self a bucket. She can create her own shot. Like there are some decent picks with the wings having the number one pick. Like there are some decent picks that they can go with at number one, even though Paige is probably who we think that they're gonna like eventually. Like, you know, just take, they have so many options, yep, that they can take at the number one pick, and so yeah, that's very true um uh like, like, just as becca lavelle said, like you better pick page, but if you were to pick olivia, I'm not upset.
Speaker 2:At all.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't be upset at that pick man Kiki Erifan. Yeah See, I wouldn't be mad at that either but I don't know if I'm taking her at number one though.
Speaker 2:You got Mauro from LSU.
Speaker 1:And that's, I hope, mauro, because see the ooh. We were at the eighth, they got her going eighth. We had the eighth pick until we, you know, did the same trade for Dejanay. That made us get the 12th pick. But if Maro falls to 12, you got to go get her.
Speaker 2:You have to get her.
Speaker 1:She is putting up 2020. Hello, like vision, like eyesight 2020. Yeah. You have to go get her, and she's going to come with a fan base because she plays at LSU and so we're right there by Louisiana, so you have to go get her. What about Azizi Fudd?
Speaker 2:Ozzy Fudd, is that her name? I like Ozzy too. Is she a senior this year?
Speaker 1:She, is she coming out?
Speaker 2:I like Ozzy too, that's why I said there's so many options that you can go with that you really can't go wrong. She's not going number one. No, no, I'm talking about this later in the first, at the number 12.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she could fall, but right now, according. To.
Speaker 2:Bleacher Reports they have her at nine, so we may not get Ozzy. May not get Ozzy, but I wouldn't be mad if she somehow fell to the wings and then got her and just like tahina, pow pow wait a minute. We ain't even talked about yeah, tahina, pow, pow, yep, like that. Like I said, there are a lot of different options and we hadn't even uh mentioned um, uh, tcu van lift we hadn't even mentioned van lift they don't even got her going top 10.
Speaker 2:She may not go top 10, but whatever team gets her, that's going to be a steal.
Speaker 1:If she falls to where we can, I will take that. I'll take.
Speaker 2:HBL Haley yeah.
Speaker 1:She has elevated her game. She brought her game back to prominence once she got out of LSU. She wasn't playing her game at LSU. Now that she's at TCU, I feel like her drag stock should have went up, but they don't even got her in the top 10.
Speaker 2:Man Now Sedona Prince they got her at the 12th spot. Yep.
Speaker 1:I would be mad at that.
Speaker 2:Nah, yeah, she's doing her thing this year with TCU. She's 6'7". Yes, only 24. Yes, like I think that's the type of big when you talk about, like Kaylani Brown, and the other one from Mississippi State, like Prince, is the type of big that I want somebody that's going to be aggressive and get buckets and be dominant in the paint, like I mean it would be nice.
Speaker 1:I would definitely look if Anissa is gone at 12. I'm grabbing Sedona.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you have to, and she can stay, like she ain't got to look for nowhere else to stay. She can be here. I'm grabbing Sedona, that makes sense I'm grabbing Sedona.
Speaker 1:I don't even know where they got. See, yeah, they don't have HVL going in the first round, which is a disservice Because she's's like, I think she's like nominated for like I forgot what award, but she's nominated for one of them awards as like one of the best point guards in the league, I mean in college.
Speaker 2:She's been in college long enough so I mean I wouldn't be. You know she's grown, she's learned life, but she's been in there for a minute, yeah. She started out with.
Speaker 1:Louisville, you got to remember that.
Speaker 2:And then she went to LSU.
Speaker 1:That didn't quite work out like they wanted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then you know at TCU yes, she's hooping, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just saying the shakeup is real.
Speaker 2:It is. It's definitely real in the WNBA.
Speaker 1:And I'm excited about this year's draft because there's some talent coming out this year and there's going to be some more talent coming out next year, because I think that's when Fla Jay is going to come out.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to be excited to see who lands old Fla. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh man, All right, let's get into the Unrivaled League. The Unrivaled League, man, this is that 3v3. And I'm telling you, Vils, I've been excited watching them play. It's been exciting and I've been excited to watch them play. So the Unrivaled League was co-founded by Breonna Stewart and Nafisa Collier and I'm telling you, this thing is based in Miami and these girls battle every Friday, Saturday and Monday and I have been thoroughly entertained by the hooping.
Speaker 3:I've been seeing, and what's so special about 3v3 is you can't hide, you cannot hide, nope.
Speaker 2:So if you can't play defense, guess what everybody knows you can't play defense 3v3 basketball is, is is one of the one of the I'm trying to think of the word like one of the things that helps you learn how to play basketball for real. Yeah, you know, I mean like cutting, screening, moving without the ball, um, just it and then, and then at the end of the day, like getting a bucket. You know I mean, but uh, yeah, I I'm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unraveled has been exciting it has definitely been exciting right now, um, it's like six teams um that are in this league, um the lunar owls, the laces, the mist, the phantom, the rose and the vinyl. Um, right now, theuna owls are six and oh yeah six, no, undefeated, ain't nobody beating them.
Speaker 1:And that is a tough squad. That is a tough squad. The luna owls yep, uh, let me tell you who is on that team man. You got shakira austin from the mystics. You got camera bring from spark. She's not playing due to her, um, acl injury, uh, so she will be playing unrivaled next year. You got Nafisa Collier from the Lynx, skylar Diggins-Smith from the Storm, alicia Gray from the Dream and Courtney Williams from the Lynx.
Speaker 2:And they're undefeated.
Speaker 1:Undefeated, Undefeated. You got bonafide hoopers on that squad and right now can no team find a method to beating them Right. And actually I really do enjoy watching the Luna Owls play. Hoo-hoo, that's their little call and I be doing it with them. Which?
Speaker 2:is crazy because Cameron Brink is on the roster.
Speaker 1:She is, she is, but unfortunately because of her ACL Right. But yeah, like, I've been thoroughly enjoying them, man, and I'm going to go on record and say like this, I have found a newfound respect for Skylar Diggins-Smith man. I like her man. She's funny, she's passionate. Yo, she's about the game, man. And I like her. I've never really been a Skylar Diggins-Smith fan, but watching Unrival she has made a fan out of me. I ain't even lying to you.
Speaker 2:I ain't lying to you Nah, she's hit four game winners in the Unrival League, and you can tell that she's having fun with it, yep.
Speaker 1:And so, yeah, I mean I agree with you. And then also coming in number two, the Laces, sitting at four and two man, that is a tough team. The Laces are a tough team. So who's on that team? We got Big Mama Steph, that's Stephanie Dolson. Tiffany Hayes, kate Martin, kayla McBuckets, kayla McBride, alyssa Thomas and Jackie Young Tough team. Buckets, kayla McBride, yeah, alyssa Thomas and Jackie Young tough team. When I say those names, you already know that's a tough squad right um and they're finding ways to win.
Speaker 1:I think a couple of them are hurt right now and what's so cool about the unrivaled league like, if you're hurt they'll bring some other girls in, let them get some burn in until you recover and get better. So it gives them exposure as well. But my favorite player so far from the Laces has to be Kayla McBuckets. That girl be drilling, killing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she do, she do. It's like the WNBA never left. I mean you get to see these girls compete. It's not on a huge, huge stage, but I mean they still out here getting buckets. And yeah, kayla McBride, kayla in buckets.
Speaker 1:She's hooping for real.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to go through everybody man.
Speaker 1:But some of the prominent people of course, like Breonna Stewart, george Lloyd is on there, rekia DeJanae, brittany Griner, of course who I'm excited that didn't think she was too big enough for the league was Angel Reese. I think Angel Reese is getting a lot of burn in. She's getting a lot of practice in. She's studying and learning from a lot of the greats, because Lisa Leslie is a big part of this Unrivaled League. Lisa Leslie is what A post player. I've seen clips of her working with Angel, angel and Nafisa.
Speaker 1:Lisa Leslie all working together during prizes like Angel's going to benefit a lot from this league and I'm excited to see her leaping here too, man, because she grabbed 15 rebounds before she was ejected out of the game.
Speaker 2:She only played 7 minutes. Man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's scary, I know y'all be talking about oh, she be grabbing her own misses? Nah, you don't watch the games, she just she hawks the ball, she hawks the ball.
Speaker 2:And she's good at that, she knows how to do that.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's her game All you gotta do is find your niche.
Speaker 3:And she how to do that hey, I mean, that's her game.
Speaker 1:That's all you gotta do is find your niche, and she's a rebounder. She's a rebounder, but she's expanding her offensive game as well. I've seen her um the clips that's been posted. Man, she's going out there, going behind the arc, chunking them things up. She's developing a mid-range. The layup is still suspect. I ain't gonna lie to you, it was a little still suspect but she passed up.
Speaker 2:It was other night. She passed up a whole entire layup just to pass it back out. I'm like, come on, you gotta be confident.
Speaker 3:You gotta be confident in that ugly ass layup. You just gotta be confident in it Long as that bitch gonna win right.
Speaker 1:So you know you got Sabrina Ionesco, I mean, it's got the names. So if you haven't tuned into the Unrivaled League, I suggest you do so, because you're missing out on some great 3v3 basketball man. Like I said, it comes on Friday, saturday and Monday and it's been great man. So check your local listeners, check out the Unrivaled League. Yo, I hope this is not a one-and-done season for them. I hope it keeps growing, it keeps building and, um, yeah, that's that all right, here we go. Bz, please drop the beat. The NBA, the NBA. All I can say and all I can do is just shake my head. That's really all I can do.
Speaker 1:It has been a crazy week in the NBA week in the NBA, a really, really crazy week as we approach the trade deadline. There has been some crazy, some unimaginable, some confusing, some heartbreaking all of the adjectives that describe sadness. Trades that have transpired Yep, I'm just going to start this one. De'aaron Fox Is now a Spur. Zach Levine Is now a King. I am not mad at that trade. I think the Spurs have gotten better. I think the Spurs treading in the right direction as far as their future goes. Um, darren Fox will pair well with Wimby. I can't wait to see what that looks like. Um, especially, uh, with Chris Paul still on the team bringing his veteran leadership like he does. I am not mad at that trade. The keys aren't going anywhere anyway, right. So Darren Fox leaving, that's probably the best thing that he could do for his career, not for real, um, because, yeah, what do you got? What do you gotta say about that?
Speaker 2:I mean, he's been there since he was a teenager and they really, you know know, accomplished a whole whole lot, but they did have some good times, you know lighting the beam and all of that. But I just think that it was time for De'Aaron Fox to move on. Yeah, and I think that it was a good move. Now I will say this until Wimby. I mean, wimby is a freaking alien, right, and that's his little emoji symbol anyway for him. He's an alien, but they still don't scare me. I don't think De'Aaron Fox, going to the Spurs, moves the needle. I haven't seen them play yet. I haven't seen them play. I don't know, I'm just talking from just the move in general, but I do like the move for Fox, I do like the move for Wimby. This is pretty much. This is Chris Paul's replacement. Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:I don't know if Chris Paul will still be with the San Antonio Spurs after this season. I don't see it happening. I think Chris Paul needs to retire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he does. He may need to retire, but yeah, it doesn't move the needle for me, but it can get scary. I mean, it's Wimby and it's Fox, and I think Fox has gained a whole new motivation just going to a different team. You know what I mean. Yeah, when you go from a team that drafted you you've been there since a teenager, um, and we'll get to the other one in a minute but when you go from that to another team, like it gives you a new sense of hope, it gives you a new sense of life and this it could be, it could be a good little duo between him and wimby. Uh, fox is still pretty young, he's not not super old or whatever, but for me, for me, it doesn't move the needle, but I mean, we'll see.
Speaker 1:I don't think it moves the needle right now, but I think you build on that, because the Spurs actually have a nice little core Right and I'm not saying that adding De'Aaron Fox makes them a playoff team today, but I would look for them to make the playoffs next year for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. I can see that it brings excitement to San Antonio, which San Antonio is a boring city to me. I'm sorry, I like San Antonio, but it's a boring city. I mean, it's some good Mexican food there, the Riverwalk, the Alamo you got the Alamo and all of that and Riverwalk, but it's not anything super, super, super exciting happening in San Antonio. It's not a huge market, but one thing I will say is those fans embrace their superstars.
Speaker 1:They love the Spurs.
Speaker 2:They definitely love the Spurs. They definitely love the Spurs, and so that could be good for them, and so I'm happy for, I guess, the Spurs fans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's bringing them back to prominence, man, because it was a time, man Spurs was running it Dominant, you know, dominant.
Speaker 2:Five Like championships ran through the Spurs but seriously.
Speaker 1:So it's good to see them. You know up on the upswing. Now what about Zach Levine? Zach Levine to the Kings. What does that do for you? Does that move any needles?
Speaker 2:No, and I hate to sound like this, but it don't, Like some teams just don't scare me. You know what I mean. Like he just don't scare me. But I am happy that Zach found his way out of Chicago. Doesn't seem like he was happy there. He also reunited with DeMar DeRozan and so you know, I guess these are one of those things like we just have to see. But yeah, it doesn't move the needle for me. I don't know how you feel, but no, it doesn't.
Speaker 1:It's not a move-a-needer A needle mover. It's not A mover-needer A needle mover. It's not a mover neater a needle mover, that's good, so no, but if you can get out of the dumpster fire, that is Chicago. I think you should.
Speaker 3:you don't want to be there they're not doing anything and it doesn't seem like they're trying either um so good for zach levine.
Speaker 1:Um again, maybe some pieces next year, we may, you know, second man could be a playing team you know, we'll see yeah, the west is, west is wide open. West is big. West is ever evolving. Yes, it is. So you know, put some pieces together, Get back out there next year and let's see what happens. Yep.
Speaker 1:I guess, the moment we've all been waiting for, when we all came here to discuss the trade seen and heard all around the world. This is going to be tough, so bear with me. I am talking about Luka Doncic and the Mavericks are no longer together. The Mavericks have traded Luka Doncic to the Los Angeles Lakers for Anthony Davis. And what's his name? Max Christie. Max Christie in the 2029 first round draft pick. First of all, I can't even believe those words came out of my mouth. Um, so again, bear with me. Uh, I'm hurt, but let's just start here. Let's just before we really get off into this, where were you when you heard about this trade? What was going through your mind? Yeah, just paint the whole scenario for us.
Speaker 2:Tell us your side. Okay, so this is probably well, it is one of the biggest trades in NBA history, given that Luka is only 25 years old. Five-time first team. All-nba led the Mavericks to NBA Finals just this past season, the 2023-2024 season. Anyway, I was at home, obviously. Well, I won't say obviously, because you guys don't know me like that. I was at home and I had just got through watching the Los Angeles Lakers versus the New York Knicks. Now, mind you, this was a Saturday night game, so it was televised on ABC and I was just at home. I was just at home watching the game. You know, uh, lakers that night did not have Anthony Davis, and so you know, I didn't really have high hopes of us winning, you know, um, but the Lakers ended up playing really well against the Knicks team, who had just won five in a row and my guy, the living legend, lebron James, had just gotten a 30-point triple-double. So I was riding off of a high. Just that alone, you know what I mean. And I had enjoyed the game.
Speaker 2:I was about to get ready to get in the bed, maybe turn on some Netflix, fall asleep to a movie, and all of a sudden and this was, and this is literally how it happened. I had my phone in my hand and, um I, my phone was open. So if you're an iPhone user, uh, you know that. Like, obviously, if your phone is open, you know you'll get a notification and if you have your banners on at the top, it'll come from the top. And so I had my phone open. I'm I'm watching the highlights of the New York Knicks and the Lakers game, because that's just what I do If we win a game, like I want to see it all. And so I saw something that said breaking and, you know, had the alert emoji or whatever. And so I double taped, I looked at it, but I didn't pay any attention. But like it was a split second later I looked back at my phone and I saw Luca's name and I could I could not read that notification fast enough. I'm not kidding Like I saw Luca's name and that's all I saw. I didn't saw, I didn't see whatever, whatever else. It said Like I saw Luca's name and that's all I saw. I didn't saw, I didn't see whatever, whatever else it said. I just saw Luca's name and I read the notification and it said Luca Doncic has been traded to the Los Angeles Lakers for Anthony Davis, max Christie and a first round pick.
Speaker 2:And when I saw that I went into complete shock. I went into complete shock and then, of course, you know, I really didn't give myself a chance to like. Well, I felt it, I was still feeling it and so the first call I made was to my podcast host, lise, and she hadn't seen it yet. So I was, like you know, I pretty much called her like immediately, immediately when I saw the news, I called her and I was just like you're not going to believe this, guess what just happened, guess what just happened. Like you're not going to like this. And she was caught off guard because I she was playing I don't know she was on a PS5 and and, and, and I delivered that news to her and, yeah, that's where I was.
Speaker 2:Whenever I found out about Luka being traded for AD to the Lakers and then AD going to the Mavericks, it was probably. I will never forget. I will never forget that moment. Whether this works out for the Lakers or the Mavericks or vice versa, I don't know, but I will never forget where I was when I received that notification, what game it was who had just put like. I will never forget that. I'm still in shock and I still can't believe it. In shock and I still can't believe it. Um, I do feel really, really bad for the Mavericks fans because, um, Luca was their guy. Luca was, um, the franchise player, the guy who had got drafted by the Atlanta Hawks and on the same night, on the same draft night, was traded for um, um, trey Young. And so Atlanta ended up with Trey Young, dallas ended up with Luka. But, yeah, I do feel really, really bad for the Mavs fans.
Speaker 2:It has been a lot for me and I know this is going to go off, but, like, for me it's been like kind of like surreal and shocking because for one and I'm thinking about talking about the Lakers specifically right now for one I felt like the Lakers were in the fifth seed, and they still are, but fifth seed winning games. Ad was out with an abdominal strain and so he wasn't playing so like. So, them getting that big win against the Knicks, him being out, fifth seed, they playing some really decent defense, they were starting to catch their groove. And if you're a Lakers fan or if you've been watching the NBA for the past few years, you know that the Lakers have been terrible. The only way that they've been getting into the playoffs is through the play-in, and so, um, it was very, very, very, very, very, very shocking. Um, it was, it was.
Speaker 2:I felt like it was a joke. I went immediately to Twitter, because that's kind of like where I go for breaking news and current news Nowadays. Obviously, in the technology era that we live in, I had to see this from somebody else, obviously. I went to Sham's page with the verified check and had to make sure this was true. He confirmed yes, this is real, it was true. He confirmed yes, this is real. It was crazy.
Speaker 2:So, yes, going back to what I was saying about the Mavs fans, like I do feel for the Mavs fans because they lost someone who they felt like I won't say he was the next Dirk, but he was going to be there as long as Dirk was. You know two different players. Obviously, dirk delivered a championship to Dallas, um, and, and Dirk is, is so beloved in Dallas, and Luca is and was too. You know what I mean. And so I really felt bad for the Mavericks in a moment. I felt like it was a mistake. I felt like, you know, I was asking like, why? Why did they trade Luca? Like what's going on? Like I had all the questions that everybody else had. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And then on the other side, as far as the Lakers go, pretty upset with AD being gone now as well, as he's been playing, been playing through lingering injuries and actually staying healthy for the past year and a half, and I know that it's funny to some of you guys, but you know AD has been labeled street close and you know he has been on a tear as of late, and so for me it was just trying to understand why. What happened? Why did this happen? Like what's going on? Like I don't get it. This is a bad trait, like I had a lot of different mixed emotions and but, but I think my main emotion was just complete shock, complete and utter shock. That's for me that that's really it like.
Speaker 2:And here we are today. Luca is officially a laker. He had his introductory press conference today with them. Ad and max christie are mavericks. Um, I don't. I hadn't seen them do an introductory press conference, but they had their first game tonight. I ate it in play. He's still trying to get back from that abdominal strain, but it was shocking to me. It still is shocking to me.
Speaker 2:For me, in my lifetime, I don't remember a trade being this big, since whenever we found out on that July 4th that Katie had went to the Warriors, that it was, that was more so shocking but also nerve-wracking, also sickening that day, you know, for me, um, but, yeah, man, I, yeah, that's where I was, that's who I was, that's how I felt, and I do really feel bad for the Mavs fans because I know that was y'all's guy.
Speaker 2:I have love for Luka too. I've always had love for Luka, and now am I going to, like, not root for him now because of the Mavericks fans being sad and upset? No, I can't, like, I can't. You know what I mean. Am I going to root against AD because he's now a maverick and Max Christie? No, I'm not gonna do that, you know I mean. But this is the reality of today's NBA, um, and for it to happen when nobody knew what was going on not the players. Luca didn't know, ad didn't know, um, the coaches didn't know, nobody knew, and so it was just shocking, man, it's shocking, and I'm going to end it there because I know you got to say what you got to say. Lisa's a huge, huge, huge Maverick fan, along with other people that I know, and so I'm going to just let her speak her piece right now people that I know, and so.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna just let her, you know, speak her piece right now. I kind of just want to start where where I was when the news was delivered to me. Um, saturday night I was minding my business plan, ncaa dynasty, with my man online. We was on the phone. You know, I was already mad at him already because he has stolen my recruits, so I was already kind of in a pissy mood. But I was okay. You know, we was just having a good time online playing the game, my phone. Well, I was already on the phone, so my line beep. It's kavill kavillavill's. I'm sorry, aka, ville's, it's okay and it's late.
Speaker 1:You know it's about 11-ish, 11.30. Maybe she ain't calling this late for nothing, right? So I was like what she want, it's kind of late, so I click over. She was like you won't believe this. Now, at 1130 at night, getting a call from Vails at this time of hour talking about you won't believe this. I'm already thinking like something bad has happened. So I thought somebody had you know, excuse me passed away or died. So my heart sank for a little bit. It just sunk and I'm like what? And she's like you're not going to believe this, it's about the Mavericks. And so then I kind of felt like joy, like maybe something good has happened.
Speaker 1:But, she said you're not going to like this, though, and then immediately I felt crazy. I was thinking like, okay, oh Lord, who do we trade? Kyrie PJ? You know, I went through all the things and I'm trying to like grab my phone and get on Instagram or somebody to see I'm typing in Dallas, you know, whatever you know, I'm just gonna let you see it, I'm just gonna let you see it. And I was like what is going on? And I get on Instagram and I see Lucas face and I read that trade and it was 80s face. And first thing I say I was like this ain't real. I was like man, come on, stop playing. This ain't even real. This ain't real. There's no way this't real. I was like man, come on stop playing this ain't even real, right, this ain't real.
Speaker 1:There's no way. There's no way. This is real. And she was like oh, oh, no, it's starting to be everywhere. So here I am. I'm trying to go through all the verified sources the bleacher reports.
Speaker 2:It's everywhere.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it starting to pop up everywhere. Shams. It's starting to pop up everywhere and I'm like there's no way, no way like this cannot what, yeah, what? And I'm looking at the terms of the trade. I'm like this this don't even add up. Yeah, not saying ad's a bad player, but Luka's arguably the top. It's one of the top three players in the league right.
Speaker 1:And to get an AD and a Max Christian at 29 first. That's not that, when you know, other teams is racking them like five, six first-round draft picks for their star players, and Luka's a generational talent. But I wasn't even at that point yet, I'm just so stuck at that he's been traded and so denial sets in. So I was like I said wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, so I click over. I was like yo, I got to click my boyfriend in, I gotta click him in and I do. I said I said bae, I said they traded Luca and then Vils, get on, she's on, we on three way, like we on three way. And it's like melee broke loose. He, he tried. I think at that point he he jumping on twitters and trying to see what was going on, and then we just erupted in total chaos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did it was chaotic on. I just remember screaming at one point just like I, just in shock and utter, complete shock at what I was reading and I remember. So I just remember putting them on hold and I remember just running around the house and then I had found my dad. I was like they traded Luca. He was like what? I was like they, they traded Luca. Like Luca's gone, he he's with LA. For who? I was like Anthony Davis. He was like nah, I'm like no, they. Now I'm way more calm than what I'm saying now. Then cause then I'm hollering, I'm everything's loud and at an octave of about 20. And I was talking to my mom. I was like they traded Luca. They traded Luca. Oh my God, they traded Luca. And she was like what? I was like he's gone and it was just. I just could not believe it, like I was in denial. I'm like there's no way that they literally have traded Luka Doncic from this team. How, how, when he's the franchise player, how, when he's the face of the team? How, when we just went to the finals On his back right, damn near, how could we have traded luca? And to the lakers. So this is all you know saturday night's chaos.
Speaker 1:So I went to bed or at least I tried and we was on the phone for like a good hour trying to like break this down, trying to get answers, and I mean trying to. You know what is this? And I remember Shams kept saying no, this is a thousand percent true. Because nobody believed it. He was like no, this is a thousand percent true. Shams was tweeting like no, this is so true, this is really happening, this really happened. And I was like, nah, so I just end up going to bed and I've been waking up and I can't remember. I heard some on tv. He was like yeah, the dallas mavericks have traded luca dachas to the los angeles lakers for everything they was.
Speaker 1:I said, oh, that shit really happened. That wasn't, that wasn't a nightmare, that was reality. Cause at first I was like man, we are living in an alternate universe, an alternate reality. That's why I thought like this is no way, this has happened. And I woke up the next morning and it was still Luca had been traded. And now I'm trying to dig and find answers and I'm just like sad and heartbroken and I still, right now, can't even believe it. Um, and as things start to unfold and things are starting to come out, the secrecy, the, the, the, the, the, the back alley meetings in Dallas at some coffee shop. From my understanding, like from what I've heard, this this these trade talks have been in talks for some time now, for a few weeks, and to the point where I found out that the GM, nico Harrison, actually reached out first Before I called Nico down to the congregation in front of the congregation Mills, who won the trade in your opinion?
Speaker 2:I hate to be cliche, but I think right now, for the now, I think the Mavericks won. This gives you guys a chance to compete not only this year but the next. And think the Mavericks won. This gives you guys a chance to compete not only this year but the next and maybe even the following year after that. I think that this was more so of a long-term move for the Lakers, given that Brian is about to retire soon, at the age of 40, which is crazy to say, but he's about to retire soon, and so they were looking at their future.
Speaker 2:And if you offer me Anthony Davis and Max Christie, or if I offer you Anthony Davis and Max Christie in a first-round pick and you give me Luka, max Kleber and Markeith Morris and Luka's 25, again I don't have to really say his accolades, which is who I'm talking about is Luca. I don't have to say his accolades again. Like I'm taking that, and so I guess time will tell on who really won, because if the Dallas Mavericks go on and win a championship this year or next year, you could say that they won, but then, if time goes on and Luca wins maybe two or three in LA, then you could say they won. So it's like, you know, I don't really know, I think for right now, the Mavericks won. For right now, for right now.
Speaker 1:I can't count the Mavericks, although I am hurt and distraught and in pain and I'm suffering On paper the Mavericks Look tough. It's kind of hard to debate Kyrie. This is the starting five now Kyrie, klay Thompson, pj Washington, anthony Davis, daniel Gafford and or Derek Lively whenever he gets back. It's kind of hard to debate that. When now you got Anthony Davis playing in his natural position, which is a power forward and I saw a joke they said AD complained about having a center, so they gave him two it's funny but I'm not laughing. On paper, yes, the Mavericks look very scary. They look like they're ready to compete. They look like they're definitely in a win-now mode which.
Speaker 1:Nico alluded to that in the presser because he had to answer because the city's in shambles when I get there. Yeah, so right now. Yes, like Vail said, I believe the Mavericks did win the trade in the short term in the entry, but in the long term, yeah, the Lakers did, because they're getting a perennial all-star, bona fide superstar, a generational talent who is now getting ready to enter his prime, and how you let that go for an aging, injury-prone player, that is.
Speaker 1:Hey, he's having a hell of a season. I can't discredit that he is, but to me it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:And does you have anything you want to say real quick? You say that AD is injury prone and we know his history. Yeah, but we can also say the same about Luca.
Speaker 1:We can.
Speaker 2:Luca has endured, but I'll take 25 injuries yeah, but Luca has endured his injuries too. And then also, not to mention everything now that's been coming out and as to why they traded him and talking about, like his conditioning and you know his issues, like as far as like diet.
Speaker 1:See, I don't care.
Speaker 2:Right, and I wouldn't either.
Speaker 1:I have said I don't care. If Luca was close to being on my 500-pound life, I would roll his fat ass out of that bed and put him on that basketball court.
Speaker 2:I don't give a damn how fat Luka Doncic is and what he done to me, and I'm going to just be real when he stepped off that plane he didn't look too fat to me.
Speaker 1:He didn't look too fat to me. Didn't look too fat to me either. I mean, he's late and gained a little weight he don't look that big, but but, but, but to you know, and like the man is a roly polyoli, yeah, that ain't right. Don't sell me no, and and, and, and.
Speaker 2:Not to mention he's giving you still 38 and 8.
Speaker 1:I don't give a damn how fat y'all think luca For your point exactly, if he still can come out there and give you 38, 8, 39, 9, 30, 10, 10, 12. And take you to the finals. Luca, you can eat as many hot and ready pizzas as you want to, it ain't stopping nothing. Now, maybe the weight is causing the injuries. Him being out of shape Could be Causing the injuries. Okay, out of shape causing the injuries.
Speaker 1:Okay, that is a problem, but you work with that, alright, I think it's about that time. Nico, come here, right on down to the front, right there. Thank you, sir. What you did Saturday night was just despicable. You didn't care about the fans. You didn't even care about the players. The team morale is down, yep you. This has nothing to do with Anthony Davis. This has nothing to do with Match Christy, and we are going to welcome them. They didn't ask to be here. They didn't ask to be a part of this drama that you created. You created this, you did this. Nobody there's nobody called asking for Luka. Nobody has called asking for Luka because, from our understanding, he was untradeable. There was nothing that you can give that you would take for him. Right.
Speaker 1:So we're going to welcome Anthony Davis. We're going to welcome Max, chris. We're going to welcome all of that. I'm glad to have you, we ain't got no choice anyway, but Luka is 25 years. Thanks, chris, we're going to welcome all of that. I'm glad to have you. We ain't got no choice anyway, but Luka is 25 years old. I don't care if he likes to chug 12 packs of beers after every game. I don't give a shit. How did he produce on that court?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:I don't give a damn if he likes to hookah on Saturday night while eating his hot and ready pizzas on Friday night. What did he do on the court that night? You don't, you don't? You have set this franchise back 10 years because he's 25. 10 years he would have been 35. And it's not like he's some super athletic dude, right, he's slow as hell. Luka's the slowest, fastest dude I've ever seen play basketball, mm-hmm. So Luka could probably, you know, give or take the injuries and his conditioning. He could have probably played tomorrow, baby 37.
Speaker 2:38, maybe as a Maver, maybe as a Maverick, as a.
Speaker 1:Maverick, the lack of compassion, though you know. Not only do you do a surprise trade Like nobody knew, poor Danny Ainge, poor him, he was a pawn in it, he up here looking stupid as hell. What did he say? He said had he known?
Speaker 2:Yeah, danny Ainge did not know that he was helping the Lakers trade for Luka. He only had 30 minutes notice quote that LA was landing Donchage and then by the end it was too late whenever he tried to do something about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he didn't even know he had already agreed because it took a. It took a third team to make this happen. So I, the city is hurting, the city is crying, the city because you don't know the dallas mavericks nico. You got here yesterday and I, and I don't know the Dallas Mavericks Nico. You got here yesterday and I don't understand how you go like.
Speaker 1:For the past two years, you have been revered as probably one of the greatest GMs. Yes, that stepped into the league. You brought us Kyrie, you brought us PJ and Daniel Gafford, so I don't understand how you did those. From back to back years, you have done great things. To a matter of seconds, you become the dumbest GM that has ever been in the NBA. I don't give a damn how much weight he didn't gain since he was injured, unless there is something that you know that nobody else knows. You don't let that go, and you definitely and this is what was your love affair with the lakers. If you was going to trade him, why not get everything you can possible for him? Okay, go get ad and then tell the ladies look, I need all your first-round unprotected picks for the next five years. That's what Oklahoma did.
Speaker 1:Do you think Oklahoma just gave up Paul George for nothing For nothing. And Paul George wasn't even at the pinnacle at that time, but he was Paul George. He had made a name for himself. Paul George was no top-five player at the pinnacle at that time, but he was Paul George. He had made a name for himself. Paul George was no top five player at the time. Oklahoma had so many goddamn picks, why didn't you call them hey. I give you looking for shy or shade, I give you looking for all them draft assets you got. Make it make sense. It made no sense. It looks very shady that you didn't even tell the coach. Just can't look so stupid on that press conference on that Sunday. When you're trying to address a fans in the media, let's do it. He was, he was distraught, he didn't even know what to say. So oh, he knows. You know he likes whatever player. I think I can tell what kind of player he likes and you know I believe defense wins championships.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the fact that he was speaking for him was crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I know the type of players that he likes and I what Like no, no, no, you don't, because when I told you I was a dumbass? No, I'm not. No, we're not giving rid of him. I don't care what Luka does, right, luka sells tickets. So much so that Mavs fans that have bought season tickets are now asking for a refund. And guess what? The Mavericks are honoring that.
Speaker 1:They're honoring that. You have let a whole fan base down Because you move so shady. And not only did you move shady, you talk shit about him on his way out the door, like who are you? Who are you? You have become the number one villain in the city. And then let me tell you about your punk ass.
Speaker 1:Why'd you turn your comments off of instagram, bruh? You gotta face this music. You gotta face this music. You gotta hear for the fans. And then you wanna say, like you know what? Yeah, the fans may say something now, but you know when it cures that. No, let me tell you something we can win the championship this year and we will never forget what you have done to us, because it wasn't just about the championships.
Speaker 1:He was ours. We drafted him. He was 19 years old when he came to us. He was the successor of Dirk Nowinski, who catches lightning in a bottle twice, twice and honestly, Luka's better than Dirk. Now, dirk brought us the championship, so Dirk will always be Mr Maverick, but talent-wise Luka was better. We wanted the Luka statue by the Dirk statue. You know what that was out there by Dirk, a memorial service for Luka. People was bringing caskets, flowers, candles, jerseys, signs, everything. You know what you did. You put your hand in every fan's heart. You ripped out their heart. I mean, you put your hand in every fan's chest. You ripped out their heart and you spat on it, stumped on it, kicked it. That's what you did.
Speaker 2:It's almost like he wanted to do it on purpose.
Speaker 1:And like you, was, yes, sickening. And you didn't even have the audacity to tell him. And then they ask you have you heard from him? No, he probably doesn't want to talk to me. You damn fucking right, he doesn't. He don't want to talk to me. You damn fucking right, he doesn't. He don't want to talk to you. We don't even want to see you.
Speaker 1:If it was up to me, if it was up to me, nico, your ass would have been fired the same day you sent that trade through, would have been the same day you was getting your walking papers. And let me not forget about ownership. I really wish Mark Cuban never have sold that team, because Mark Cuban would not have let this happen At all. But see, when you give your franchise to business owners, they have no pulse in the community. Your franchise to business owners they have no pulse in the community. They don't have the the, the pulse of the fans. It's a business to them. These are not basketball people, they're casino people, they're the goddamn mob.
Speaker 1:So I've heard all the theories, conspiracy theories. I've heard all the theories, conspiracy theories. I've heard all that. Hey, at this point, if you want to move the team to Vegas, move it to Vegas. Take the Dallas Cowboys with you.
Speaker 1:But you have hurt us deeply and I don't care how many championships you think we win or if we win, nothing will fix what you have done to us. Like we are hurting because Luca was ours, luca is hurting. I heard Luca was crying. Luca just bought a house. You don't do that to your superstar. And to find out that you've been planning this trade for weeks is disturbing and disgusting. Yeah, that's crazy. And who would want to come to a team that moves like that? It's always been hard for us to land in the big fish or get free agents to come here. It's always been hard for us to do. And we finally get somebody here that other people want to play for and you go and you trade him for pennies and then tell me that winning with Kirit not if I got a stomach watching Luka be the second coming of Kobe You're going to make me stomach that for the next 10 years of my life. It's sickening, not Luka sickening Luca sickening, nico sickening and I don't promote violence, I don't, but you better watch your back because a lot of people out here that's very angry and I ain't saying, but I'm saying you better be careful walking the streets of Dallas. It's gonna be a very long time before I can get over this, because I am a die hard Mavs fan man. I'm hurt. I'm hurt, and watching him on the sideline of this Laker game is sickening. He looks hurt, he looks sad. He doesn't look like the Luka that I've grown to know and love, like you've really just destroyed families, friendships.
Speaker 1:Our group chat is in shambles. Paul Vance can't say shit in that bitch because it's a group chat full of Madness fans and there's some, I guess, laker fans in there, depending on the day. I didn't go as hard as I thought I was going to go, maybe because I'm maybe starting to find some kind of peace. I don't know, maybe so. But I want you gone, nico. I want you out of here. You don't deserve to be the general manager anymore, because only a fool only a fool will make a trade like that and you should not have the keys to this organization, because what else are you capable of? If you're capable of doing that? The sky's the limit with your ass. The only hope and prayer that I have, the only hope and prayer that I have, if Luka finishes out the rest of his contract with Los Angeles and that we can get him back after the next season. But that's me wishful thinking, because why would he come back to an organization that stabbed him in the back? But that's me wishful thinking, because why would he?
Speaker 1:why, would he come back to an organization that stabbed him in the back and then talk shit about him on the way out the door. But I'm just hoping that it's the love of the fans and the love that the fans have for him that he will stomach that for us. But, Nico, you got to go. You have no place here in Dallas anymore and I'm done.
Speaker 2:Well, you said a mouthful with that one and I mean I really don't know how to follow that up, other than I think that Luka coming to the Lakers changes things. This trade, this bogus trade that Nico Harrison has just made, may have extended LeBron James' career, and I can't lie and say that I'm not happy about that, because I am Even watching the game tonight. Luka just doesn't look, he looks sad, he looks like he has not accepted the fact that he's on a new team suddenly, like I'm talking about, suddenly y'all. It was sudden and you know, unfortunate for for him, unfortunate for the Mavericks fans, unfortunate for the organization. Um, but yeah, that's, that's, it's it. Hey, that trade was that serious, y'all. I know it got kind of serious real quick. It got serious, but it's, it's, that's, that's how you know and the Christ thing too.
Speaker 1:V was like he fucked him out of some money too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Definitely, and it's like it has to be more to this story.
Speaker 2:And that's what I keep saying too. That's my only concern and worry is because it's like what did you know that we did not?
Speaker 1:Because he wanted to say like you know, there's going to be a lot of teams. There's some decisions we had to make Because there's a lot of teams that's preparing for Luka to become a free agent. Luka never said he was leaving. He had every intention of staying.
Speaker 2:I don't think Nico going to be there long.
Speaker 1:He shouldn't. But who's going to fire him? The execs, the owners? They're not basketball people. They're trying to build a casino. They don't give a shit. Yeah, they can do whatever they want to do. Implode the team, because he just made his dumb ass trade of the day. I mean, I don't know much about Caleb Martin. I could be totally off base, but I was fine with Quinn Grimes. Q-dot was cool. He was balling Like quit, trying to make circles fit in squares right leave us alone.
Speaker 1:Nico, take your hands off, please. Please, leave us alone, we're fine.
Speaker 2:Leave us alone, I digress well, we'll end there, like we said. Like we both have said, I digress. Yeah Well, we'll end there, like we said. Like we both have said, like that was a major trade and it was very shocking. To this day, I still can't believe it happened. But you know, honestly, I wish nothing but the best for both sides. I wish success to AD and Max over with the Mavericks, and I wish Luka, especially after LeBron retires I hope he, you know they build the right team around him to where he can flourish and shine and also, last but not least, get him a championship ring. That's what I'm hoping for, luka.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's it. That's it All. Right, before we get out of here, give me your predictions, um, for the second half of the season. How you think the second half of the season?
Speaker 2:we don't gotta do like uh, just like I think okay, see, we remain the number one seed in the west, um, I think that, um, the Celtics will remain the number one seed in the East, because that's just what it's looking like. Their records right now are two almost dang near insatiable, and I think the Cavs may have a better record than the Celtics, if I'm not mistaken. So I think that with that trade, a lot of players will not low manage as much because they're worried. Now the trade deadline is Thursday, but I think that this puts a lot of motivation under a lot of people. And then I will say this one more thing I don't think that the Lakers are done and I don't think that the Mavericks are done as far as the trade deadline that's coming up Thursday, and so I mean, we'll see.
Speaker 2:Obviously, I've been hearing a lot of KD and all of that with the Mavericks. I know the Lakers since we gave away our rim protection in AD. We definitely need a defensive presence in the paint, so now they have to find a big that can, um, not only be a defensive presence in the paint, but also be a lob threat, um, which Luca likes to play with and which Brian also likes to play with. So, yeah, I think those are my last words, um, you know, obviously, moving forward, we'll see who won the trade for real, and yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:Yep, as far as how I think the second half of the season goes, I think I second with you. Okc will probably end up being the number one seed. I think Cleveland will probably end up being the number one seed. They've been having a hell of a year and I think that the Mavericks even though I'm not pissed off at the team, I'm just pissed off at the organization I feel like we'll probably either A be a play-in team or right there at the sixth, seventh spot, and we'll just have to see what goes on after that. Yep.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, y'all, let's get out of here. I'm sad. Now it's been real.
Speaker 2:It's the one and only Lise, and it's your girl, vels, aka Velly Vell, if that's what you want to call me, and together we are. Locked In.
Speaker 1:Sports Peace. I like sports, and that's it you.
